Service not installing on 1416

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peterreyn11
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Service not installing on 1416

Post by peterreyn11 »

I've just gone from 1409a to 1416 b..I'm running Everything portable and Win 11

In the NTFS section of settings in 1416 there is an error message "Access denied:install the Everything service or run as admin to index in NTFS section"
The service is running, and Everything is started without a UAC prompt.

What I've had to do is stop the service, run 1409a (from my backup folder), which asks me to install service, which I do.
I then closed 1409. and ran 1416 and it now works.

Currently, both services are running Everything and Everything 1.5a.

Any idea of what's happening please, and how can I run 1416 without first running the old version?

Thanks
therube
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by therube »

Do you have UAC set to never notify?

What I would try...

Exit Everything(s).

1409a:
(from a command prompt within the 1409a directory)
Everything.exe -uninstall-service
- that should present you with a UAC prompt. accept that.

Verify that the Everything Service is no longer running.
(I suppose Task Manager may show that?)

-

1416b:
(from a command prompt within the 1416b directory)
Everything.exe -install-service

- that should present you with a UAC prompt. accept that.
Verify that the Everything Service is now running.
(I suppose Task Manager may show that?)


Assuming the Service is running, run Everything (1416b).
horst.epp
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by horst.epp »

I never had problems to update the portable version, including the service.

I copy the new executable in a sub-dir .\New and start the following batch

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rem Update portable Everything
Everything.exe -exit -wait
Everything.exe -stop-service
copy /Y .\New\Everything.exe
Everything.exe -start-service
Everything.exe -startup
tuska
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by tuska »

2peterreyn1

Please see:  Everything 1.5b Beta - Upgrade Guide
Specifically: Portable Version Upgrade Recommendations

- Everything-1.5.0.1409a - 30.4.2026 was the last Everything Alpha version.
- Everything-1.5.0.1410b - 14.5.2026 was the first Everything Beta version.
- Everything-1.5.0.1416b - 02.7.2026 is currently the latest Everything Beta version.
void
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by void »

Please uninstall the Everything 1.5a service:
  • In Everything 1.5a, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Uncheck Everything Service.
  • Click OK.
  • Exit Everything (from the File menu, click Exit).
Please make sure Everything 1.5b is installed correctly:
  • In Everything 1.5b, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Check Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Check Everything Service. (Please make sure this is tick-checked and not square-checked)
  • Click OK.
  • Exit Everything (from the File menu, click Exit).
  • Restart Everything.
peterreyn11
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by peterreyn11 »

Still not working with 1416

I even deleted the services with the command line, restarted Everything, and the dialogue came up to install the service which I did.
The service is installed, and everything is starting without a UAC prompt but I'm still getting the "Access denied:install the Everything service or run as admin to index in NTFS section"

I've gone back to 1409 and it's working perfectly.
therube
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by therube »

Just some rambling thoughts...

Help | Troubleshooting
Debug Log
Service Debug Log
service_allow_untrusted_connections (but this is Win11)

Where did you get Everything from?
Download it again, & compare the two downloads (content or hash compare).
Tell us the download you downloaded & post its' hash.
Does the Digital Signature of Everything.exe itself verify?
Do you have any SUBST volumes?
Might antivirus be interfering? What A/V are you running?

If you try, 1415b (rather then 1416b), will that work?
peterreyn11
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by peterreyn11 »

I've been using everything for years so I know that the way my portable Everything is set up is correct.

The service is actually running, and furthermore Everything starts without a UAC prompt, bu despite the service running I still get the error message.

Any edition after the alpha is causing problems. No problems whatsoever with 1409.

I think the next thing to try would be a fresh portable folder, and copy over the relevant files from my running edition.
peterreyn11
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by peterreyn11 »

Hi David,

Could this be anything to to with an entry in the ini file, or possibly in the registry although I'm using the portable version?
For example, I found an entry referring to 1.5a "service_pipe_name=\\.\pipe\Everything Service (1.5a)"


I tried a clean run of Everything portable and the service is fine. I've done a lot of customisation of Everything over the years, that's why I'm wondering if an entry may be causing this.


I'm going to try tomorrow taking the fresh version and gradually replacing each file with my own.

As I said, the service is running correctly, but the error persist.

Thanks
void
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by void »

service_pipe_name=\\.\pipe\Everything Service (1.5a)
This would cause the issue.

Please clear this setting:
  • In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Advanced tab on the left.
  • To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
    service
  • Select: service_pipe_name
  • Click Reset.
  • Click OK.
peterreyn11
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by peterreyn11 »

Thanks, I'll try it out..presumably if there are other entries relating to 1.5a it would cause problems?

I'm looking for similar entries by opening the ini file as a text file, and searching through it.


Would importing an ini be better rather than just copying the file over?

It's now working, thanks.
Out of interest, what is the "service_pipe_name" for?
void
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by void »

service_pipe_name is useful for running Everything 1.4 and Everything 1.5 at the same time.

The Everything 1.4 Service and the Everything 1.5 Service are not compatible, so they will need separate instances (pipe names).
harryray2
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by harryray2 »

I've had similar problems..

For future reference, is it better to import the .ini file through Everything. or is just copying it over (which I usually do) Is sufficient?

Is there any sort of error checking of the .ini file if being imported?
void
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Re: Service not installing on 1416

Post by void »

For future reference, is it better to import the .ini file through Everything. or is just copying it over (which I usually do) Is sufficient?
Checking "Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data" copies the following files:

Bookmarks-1.5a.csv
=>
Bookmarks.csv

Filters-1.5a.csv
=>
Filters.csv

Plugins-1.5a.ini
=>
Plugins.ini

Everything-1.5a.ini
=>
Everything.ini

Macros-1.5a.csv
=>
Macros.csv

Search History-1.5a.csv
=>
Search History.csv

Run History-1.5a.csv
=>
Run History.csv

Omit Results-1.5a.csv
=>
Omit Results.csv

Synonyms-1.5a.txt
=>
Synonyms.txt

Session-1.5a.json
=>
Session.json

Session-1.5a.backup.json
=>
Session.backup.json

Everything-1.5a.db
=>
Everything.db


The location of these files is typically %APPDATA%\Everything and %LOCALAPPDATA%\Everything
If "Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything" is disabled, these files are stored in the same location as your Everything.exe.
These files can be manually copied before starting Everything 1.5b.


Is there any sort of error checking of the .ini file if being imported?
No extra error checking is done.
The Everything-1.5a.ini is compatible with the beta version.