What version to use? 1.5a or 1.5b?

[Biff]

What does that mean: viewtopic.php?t=9787#download

Download

Installer:
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64-Setup.exe
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x86-Setup.exe
Upgrade Everything 1.5a to 1.5b Guide

Portable Zip:
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64.zip
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x86.zip

This one is not being developed / updated anymore:
Portable Zip:
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64.zip?

And this one is the next to use: 1.5 Everything 1.5 Beta?

[horst.epp]

We are in the beta phase now.
The current version to use or upgrade to is 1.5.0.1415b
The download page has all applicable versions of it.
Of course the portable version is further developed
for this reason it's shown on the download page.

I don't see any open question.

[tuska]

2Biff

Hi,

viewtopic.php?t=9787 ... The title of this website has been changed from
FROM: Everything 1.5 Alpha
TO:     Everything 1.5 Beta

Everything-1.5.0.1409a - 30.4.2026 can be downloaded here
This is the latest available Everything 1.5 Alpha version.

-OR-
Starting with Everything 1.5.0.1410b, released on May 14, 2026, a 1.5 Beta version of Everything is available.

You can switch directly to the latest Everything 1.5 Beta version as follows:
1. Everything 1.5b Beta - Upgrade Guide
    IMPORTANT: Please follow these instructions first, and be sure to create a BACKUP before installation!
2. Download Everything 1.5.0.1415b - June 11, 2026 ... or a more recent version ...

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[Herkules97]

Like all software, if you do not find anything missing that's added in a newer version there is likely no good reason to update.
1.4x to 1.5x adds 2 major changes

extended property system nor the index journal.

1.5a to 1.5b does not add anything any version of 1.5a to 1.5a couldn't, probably.
It's usually just to set expectations. Personally this expectation is why I waited a few years before I started using 1.5x. That was a mistake.

I don't know what the second part is about, those are all beta versions.

I do think one thing could be clearer and that is the database version. It may have been the first beta version, but there is a new database version at some point between 1404a-1411b. Could mean if it's 1411b, then 1410a can not run the database after it's been migrated for the new db version.
I saw somewhere a voidtools post listing each database version..I don't know where that is now. It may also not be updated.
But from what I've seen it just adds stuff. Mostly in the stats page?
If nothing's been removed, there isn't much loss, or any loss, updating at least for the new db version..Probably.

Here are personal instances of newer versions making things worse or better
I've had newer versions that just don't work or are worse.
Becker Games' "Internet Connection" program does not work on the latest version. IIRC it crashes on start.

"Bing Wallpaper" on the latest versions only stores 2 images, neither are named with dates. Older version stores 7 versions and are named 20260625 and such. So a week is stored at a time.

"Firefox" v131 opened many pages at once without issue. v151 do not, there are pages that simply don't get a new visit count added and maybe they fail to load when they wouldn't previously. Could have something to do with the change that Firefox wouldn't store tab history for many of the pages that open rapidly in one tab. Idk if that refers to stuff like Outlook Web. Could be a bug related to that change...Or like Firefox no longer having tags in the history window it WAS a bug and now it's fixed..And the "fix" means visit counts can fail to be changed. Wouldn't be surprising given that tag "fix". Anyway it never happened in v131 and before. Also context menus keep flashing once before then coming back and sticking around. Also pre-Quantum had an older extension system that was removed. I believe this gave devs more control which is now restricted. Such as an extension being able to save files in any folder they wanted, meaning any folder you wanted. Now they're all stuck saving only to the Downloads folder or at least that's my understanding. Maybe it doesn't apply when you manually save using save-as window. I haven't tried, I only save from Firefox to Downloads or Documents. Might only apply when an extension wants to automatically save, like session managers?

Newer versions that improve things..
"OBSS" in 2022 versions did not work with multi-audio tracks. It would fail almost every attempt at recording and mostly fail replay buffer. 2025 versions fixed that..or 2024 versions.

"EBV" in 1.4 doesn't have extended property system nor the index journal.

"Firefox" in Quantum, I think v59 and onward, fixes restoring session not removing titles from all history entries in said session. Idk if it was the very first Quantum version or somewhere around v80-120 as I waited a few years before finally updating from v58 pre-Quantum to probably v100something. Some websites, very few more like, also worked properly after the updating. Used to use Google Chrome to visit those websites. One such was matsmart.se.
For the title removing, one such history entry could be this reply page. Instead of "(1) voidtools forum - Post a reply" if this page was ever restored it would say "posting.php?mode=reply&t=17778" because the title is either pulled from the URL section or the title itself got the URL so now there are duplicate entries.
Anyway here is a reminder if you read all the way down here that if you want to keep your web history in Firefox you have to change at least some of these in about:config:
browser.history.maxStateObjectSize
browser.history.maxUrlLength
browser.history_expire_days
browser.history_expire_days.mirror
browser.history_expire_days_min
browser.history_expire_sites
I put all mine to 2100000000

And these 3 are needed I think
places.history.expiration.interval_second
places.history.expiration.max_pages
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages
Which I put to 2147483646
There may come a day where I will reach a size limit. I don't think Firefox has a way to tell.
Would be nice to just get an infinite option..Nothing gets removed, only ever added. But I think that request will go the way of asking for that tag "fix" to be undone. Ignored.

[Biff]

I don't see any open question.

OK, that sounds very good, thank you!

Hi tuska,

Ah, thank you very much for links and guides!

So the developing of the alpha version is just finished, it simply goes on only with beta.

"Everything" done now (I thought).

Sorry, I think I’m missing something here:

These files shall be deleted or moved:

Bookmarks.csv
Everything.ini
Omit Results.csv
Run History.csv
Search History.csv
Synonyms.txt
Filters.csv
Macros.csv
Plugins.ini
Session.json

But what about these ones (not mentioned):

Everything.ini
Run History.csv
Search History.csv
Run History.backup.csv
Bookmarks.csv
Filters.csv
Bookmarks.backup.csv
Everything-1.5a.ini
Session-1.5a.json
Search History-1.5a.csv
Everything-1.5a.backup.ini
Session-1.5a.backup.json
Search History-1.5a.backup.csv
Run History-1.5a.csv
Filters-1.5a.csv
Run History-1.5a.backup.csv
Bookmarks-1.5a.csv
Bookmarks-1.5a.backup.csv
Filters-1.5a.backup.csv
Everything-Instant.ini
Everything-Instant.backup.ini
Session-Instant.backup.json
Search History-Instant.csv
Everything-Instant-2.ini
Session-Instant-2.json
Everything-Instant-2.backup.ini
Run History-Instant.csv
Search History-Instant.backup.csv
Session-Instant-2.backup.json
Search History-Instant-2.csv
Search History-Instant-2.backup.csv
Run History-Instant.backup.csv
Run History-Instant-2.csv
Filters-Instant-2.csv
Filters-Instant.csv
Run History-Instant-2.backup.csv
Plugins-Instant.ini
Plugins-Instant-2.ini
Plugins-1.5a.ini
Bookmarks-Instant.csv
Bookmarks-Instant-2.csv

I guess they have to be removed / moved as well?

I’ve done everything up to this point (Click OK) here, viewtopic.php?t=17663#portable:

Replace your Everything.exe with the Everything.exe from the Everything 1.5b portable zip.
Launch Everything.exe.
Everything 1.5b will automatically copy your Everything 1.5a settings and data.
Accept the prompt to run indexing process as administrator or install the Everything Service.
In Everything 1.5b, from the Tools menu, click Options.
Click the General tab on the left.
Optionally check Start Everything on system startup.
Optionally check Show Search Everything folder context menu item.
Optionally check Start menu shortcut.
Optionally check Desktop shortcut.
Optionally check Quick Launch shortcut.
Optionally check es: URL Protocol.
Optionally check EFU file association.
Click OK.

How do I get my bookmarks back now? Using the old Bookmarks.csv obviously doesn’t work since it can be deleted.

Like all software, if you do not find anything missing that's added in a newer version there is likely no good reason to update.

Yes, indeed, I should have listened to that several times.

t's usually just to set expectations. Personally this expectation is why I waited a few years before I started using 1.5x. That was a mistake.

Yes, but this is Everything... and somehow I’m afraid I might be missing something. I only use a tiny fraction of it, so that seems very unlikely.

Does the update option actually work for the beta version?

[void]

Please backup your portable Everything location if you haven't already.

But what about these ones (not mentioned):

A lot of them are mentioned.
Please leave the files ending with -1.5a, -instant and instant-2.

Looks like you have some custom instances: instant and instant-2.
These instance will continue to work normally. You don't need to do anything.



Everything 1.5b no longer uses the -1.5a instance.
You will have to manually copy your data and settings from the 1.5a version when updating the portable version.

If bookmarks are missing in Everything 1.5b:

• Exit Everything (File -> Exit)
• Copy your Bookmarks-1.5a.csv to Bookmarks.csv
• Restart Everything.

[Biff]

Everything 1.5b no longer uses the -1.5a instance.
You will have to manually copy your data and settings from the 1.5a version when updating the portable version.

Sorry for my confusion. I already had done that. Without the manual imports. This, "Everything 1.5b will automatically copy your Everything 1.5a settings and data.", does not mean what I thought? So I have to import all of the data / settings manually? Sorry again.

f bookmarks are missing in Everything 1.5b:

Exit Everything (File -> Exit)
Copy your Bookmarks-1.5a.csv to Bookmarks.csv
Restart Everything.

OK, renaming the Bookmarks-1.5a.csv and copying it to the Everything folder, not copying the Bookmarks.csv that has more / actuall entries (which would be better to keep)? Appears to be the same content besides of the new entries.

[void]

Sorry for my confusion. I already had done that. Without the manual imports. This, "Everything 1.5b will automatically copy your Everything 1.5a settings and data.", does not mean what I thought? So I have to import all of the data / settings manually? Sorry again.

The portable version of Everything 1.5b will only automatically copy your Everything 1.5a settings and data if there is no settings and data file.

For example:
Everything 1.5a will use

Bookmarks-1.5a.csv

(because it runs in a 1.5a instance)
Everything 1.5b will use

Bookmarks.csv

(runs in the unnamed instance)

If you run Everything 1.5b and there's no

Bookmarks.csv

, Everything 1.5b will copy your

Bookmarks-1.5a.csv

to

Bookmarks.csv

OK, renaming the Bookmarks-1.5a.csv and copying it to the Everything folder, not copying the Bookmarks.csv that has more / actuall entries (which would be better to keep)? Appears to be the same content besides of the new entries.

Use the one with the newer entries.
Please let me know if you have any trouble with Everything 1.5b loading your bookmarks, or other settings and data.

[Herkules97]

You don't have to move anything if you use custom portable instances.
If you use one folder for all instances, just replace the exe.

But it looks like you might have 2 unnamed instances, those would have to be renamed and made custom for that setup.

Here is a cropped example of my setup if you want something separated..Inspiration or whathaveyou.
Version folders
"\EBV\EverythingVoidtools v1.3.4.686 x64"
"\EBV\EverythingVoidtools v1.4.1.1024 x64"
"\EBV\EverythingVoidtools v1.5.0.1405a x64"
"\EBV\EverythingVoidtools v1.5.0.1407a x64"
"\EBV\EverythingVoidtools v1.5.0.1411b x64"

Instance folders
"\EverythingVoidtools v1.3.4.686 x64\Random DB"
"\EverythingVoidtools v1.4.1.1024 x64\Random DB"
"\EverythingVoidtools v1.5.0.1386a x64\Random old dbs loaded frozen"

Instances files
"\Everything-Random DB 1.3.4.686 C9v2.ini"
"\Everything-Random DB 1.4.1.1024 C9v2.ini"
"\Everything-Random old dbs loaded frozen 1.5.0.1386a C9v2.ini"

[Biff]

The portable version of Everything 1.5b will only automatically copy your Everything 1.5a settings and data if there is no settings and data file.

Of the main instance (or of every instance, for example "instant"). OK, so the files / data containing the information may not be available when starting the first time 1.5b. So that's why, or I understood it wrongly, these files have to be removed, what I had done. Obviously the identical information / data is stored somewhere else so 1.5b can get them at all.

Please let me know if you have any trouble with Everything 1.5b loading your bookmarks, or other settings and data.

OK, thank you, I will do so. Now the bookmarks are there (as they should be I hope). After completing the Instructions (up to the part to be done manually, I didn't do that), the bookmarks weren't in 1.5b. So then I used the same information bookmark.csv (or the other one, do not remember anymore), that had to be removed to get the bookmarks into 1.5b, and copied it back. Now they are available in 1.5b after re-starting it.

Sorry again for my confusion and understanding nothing.

You don't have to move anything if you use custom portable instances.

Yes, I do, I would sag.

If you use one folder for all instances, just replace the exe.

Yes, I do, and had done it.

But it looks like you might have 2 unnamed instances, those would have to be renamed and made custom for that setup.

They are named with "instant" actually, I thought.

Ah, OK, many thanks for the inspirations.

[tuska]

2Biff
I took a look at your file list.

If you remove the -1.5a prefix from the filename, you'll end up with duplicate filenames
where you'll have to decide which filename version you want to use (as already mentioned above).

To help you out, I've put together an overview.
 

What version to use_1.5a or 1.5b.xlsx

2026-06-27_What version to use_1.5a or 1.5b.png

[Biff]

Ah, that's great, thank you very much!

So then, I would just keep the OK-files and one of each double files and remove the others?

[tuska]

Wait, I'm putting together a step-by-step guide right now.

[Biff]

OK, thank you!

[tuska]

2Biff

I suggest you follow these step-by-step instructions exactly.

Prerequisites, as you confirmed above:
All files are located in a single folder(!) and are portable versions.

1. Everything-1.5.0.1409a.x64
   Make sure that Everything.exe (version 1.5.0.1409a.x64) is located in that folder, e.g. in C:\Everything.
   Don't start Everything.exe yet!
    
2. Move all configuration files to the location where Everything.exe is located
   - AND - please BACKUP your portable folder!
   -> Please see image above: File Names (BEFORE)
   If you've already removed the prefix -1.5a from some files, just leave them as they are.
    
3. Portable Version Upgrade Recommendations
   Launch Everything.exe - Version 1.5.0.1409a.x64 and follow these steps, specifically
   FROM: To upgrade the Everything 1.5a portable version: ...
   TO:     Exit Everything (File -> Exit)
    
4. Rename only the files with the prefix -1.5a and remove the duplicates
   so that only one file of each remains WITHOUT THE PREFIX!
   Please see image above: File Names (AFTERWORDS)
   All configuration files listed here must remain in this (one) folder, e.g. in C:\Everything!
    
5. Portable Version Upgrade Recommendations
   Here's what to do next:
   1. Replace your Everything.exe (1.5.0.1409a.x64) with the Everything.exe from the Everything 1.5b portable zip -
      e.g. Version Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64 - 11.6.2026 - [or newer...].
   2. Launch Everything.exe (1.5.0.1415b.x64) - "Unnamed instance" -> See the next point...
       
   3. UNCHECK this option: Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data,
      because the settings files for the portable versions are already in place!
      EDIT: Please see the correction below.
       
   4. Continue with this point:
      "● Accept the prompt to run indexing process as administrator or install the Everything Service."
      up to here:
      "● Click OK."
   5. DONE! (Unnamed instance)
       
      Please check the listed named instances below - I'm not sure if all the steps listed below are necessary...
      (It's more of an example of named Everything instances located in separate folders).
       
   6. Launch Everything.exe (1.5.0.1415b.x64) -instance "Instant" - Go to item 5.d.
       
   7. UNCHECK this option: Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data,
      because the settings files for the portable versions are already in place!
      EDIT: Please see the correction below.
       
   8. ... Check the options (check/uncheck), e.g. "Optionally check Desktop shortcut" ...
   9. The settings under “General” do NOT need to be changed.
      Example: Changing from “Tick-checked” to “Dash-checked”: (Indeterminate).
       
   10. Launch Everything.exe (1.5.0.1415b.x64) -instance "Instant-2" - Go to item 5.d.
        
   11. UNCHECK this option: Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data,
       because the settings files for the portable versions are already in place!
       EDIT: Please see the correction below.
        
   12. ... Check the options (check/uncheck), e.g. "Optionally check Desktop shortcut" ...
   13. The settings under “General” do NOT need to be changed.
       Example: Changing from “Tick-checked” to “Dash-checked”: (Indeterminate).
        
       2026-06-27_Unnamed instance_named instance_1.5b.png

[Biff]

Thank you very much for the great instructions!

Everything done, everything works very well. Even the two instances (instant, instant-2).

UNCHECK this option: Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data,
because the settings files for the portable versions are already in place!

This option didn't show up. Never seen it. Not one time.

What versions are these, what are they good for, never seen before:

Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64.en-US-Setup.exe
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x86.en-US-Setup.exe
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64.en-US.zip
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x86.en-US.zip

Thank you very much again!

[Herkules97]

What versions are these, what are they good for, never seen before:

Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64.en-US-Setup.exe
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x86.en-US-Setup.exe
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64.en-US.zip
Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x86.en-US.zip

It's the program without other languages.
One of them takes about 1MB less than the normal one.

[tuska]

UNCHECK this option: Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data, ...

This option didn't show up. Never seen it. Not one time.

This installation option is shown in the image here (Everything 1.5b Beta - Upgrade Guide).

I mistakenly thought that the installation window with this menu item
would also appear in the portable version when you launch Everything.exe.

However, the portable version displays this installation window:
 

2026-06-29_Everything 1.5b - Portable Installation -Default Setting.png

 
This menu item is therefore only displayed for an installation (e.g., Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64-Setup.exe)
and is NOT relevant for a portable installation. I have corrected my post above and apologize for my mistake.
 

2026-06-29_Everything 1.5b - Installation -Default Setting.png

 
Note on an installation (NOT portable installation):
If the “Copy Everything 1.5a settings and data” option was checked during installation
I would definitely compare my backup files with the ones created after the installation.

[Biff]

It's the program without other languages.
One of them takes about 1MB less than the normal one.

So an extra version only for the USA obviously to save one MB? So ¼, ⅕ less of the size of the exe file. But 1 MB for all the languages, not for a single one, I guess...but the unzipped US version seems to have the same size.

However, the portable version displays this installation window:

Yes, I pressed OK with the default action.

This menu item is therefore only displayed for an installation (e.g., Everything-1.5.0.1415b.x64-Setup.exe)
and is NOT relevant for a portable installation. I have corrected my post above and apologize for my mistake.

Ah, no no, no need for apologizing, so it just is not an indication that anything went wrong because it didn't show, good to know.

Thank you very much again!