Not able to rename avi file

[takeiteasyjay]

From the file list, I am able rename files except if that is an avi file. It says the file is open in "Everything". I can't rename even in windows explorer for the same reason. I have to deselect this file in Everything and then it works in explorer.

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Can this be avoided? I am wondering if some preview configuration causes this. I am not previewing though. It is annoying when I need to open this one in explorer and then deselect this file and then rename. Any help is appreciated.

BTW, awesome tool.

[NotNull]

Maybe the thumbnails handler gets in the way of Everything.

First quick test: In Everything Explorer, rename your movie.avi to movie.avizzz and try to delete the file in Everything. Does that succeed?

[horst.epp]

I don't see such a problem here.
I can rename or delete .avi files in Everything or Explorer while they are selected in Everything
Furthermore, I guess there is some software running in the background monitoring AVI files.
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Windows 11 Home Version 24H2 (OS Build 26100.3037)
Everything 1.5.0.1391a (x64), Everything Toolbar 1.5.1

[takeiteasyjay]

Maybe the thumbnails handler gets in the way of Everything.

First quick test: In Everything Explorer, rename your movie.avi to movie.avizzz and try to delete the file in Everything. Does that succeed?

Just to be clear, I am not able to rename in explorer also when that same file is selected in everything. The moment I select a different file or the search doesn't include this file, I can rename in explorer.

Yes, renaming the file in explorer to a different extension (like you suggested) and then renaming that in everything works fine. Most other video/picture/audio/doc extension files are fine.

My suspect is one of below
(1) it is trying to prepare for preview or something, so when preview window is enabled, it can show that and that is locking up the file.
(2) It is trying to find some video attribute of the file which triggers some handler (may be specific for avi) and that is holding the file. It could be thumbnail also.

Thanks for the answer. Hoping to get a solution for this.

[takeiteasyjay]

I don't see such a problem here.
I can rename or delete .avi files in Everything or Explorer while they are selected in Everything
Furthermore, I guess there is some software running in the background monitoring AVI files.
______________________________________________________
Windows 11 Home Version 24H2 (OS Build 26100.3037)
Everything 1.5.0.1391a (x64), Everything Toolbar 1.5.1

Thanks for the response. I guess this is not a common problem for all (otherwise many others would have raised it). Wondering if there is some other tool (like a windows handler that everything uses) is either buggy or something.

The message shows this file is "opened" in everything and that is the reason it cannot rename. I am hoping some registry or some association needs to be fixed to solve my issue. Thankfully not many avi files and so not so common issue for me.

[therube]

Does this happen with all .avi or only some?
If some, can you throw up a sample.

And to be clear, if Everything is highlighting an .avi, you cannot rename it (in Everything or otherwise).
And if you switch highlight to a different file, then that particular .avi can then be renamed (outside of Everything).

Test, disable context menu shell extensions in Everything.
If that still makes no difference, then reverse that action.
(You can reverse it anyhow, but you'll need to find the actual cause, but at least it might point you in the correct direction.)

What OS?
What version of Everything?

[NotNull]

The most likely reasons for this to happen -- some unbehaved shell extension, like those for previews, thumbnails, context menu -- are shared between Explorer and Everything and therefor should cause troubles in Explorer too.
.. unless you are running Everything as administrator ...

In that case:

• In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
• Click the General tab on the left.
• Check Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything.
• Uncheck Run as administrator.
• Check Everything Service. (Please make sure this is tick-checked and not square-checked)
• Click OK.
• Exit Everything (from the File menu, click Exit).
• Restart Everything.

Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
* Right click your Everything.exe or a shortcut to Everything
* Click Properties.
* Click the Compatibility tab.
* Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
* Click OK.


Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
* Right click your Everything.exe or a shortcut to Everything
* Click Properties.
* Click the Shortcut tab.
* Click the Advanced button.
* Uncheck Run as administrator.
* Click OK.
* Click OK.


Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
* Right click your Everything.exe or a shortcut to Everything
* Click Properties.
* Click the Compatibility tab.
* Click the Change settings for all users button at the bottom.
* Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
* Click OK.

[takeiteasyjay]

Sorry, I couldn't get back before.

Interestingly I found some clues. One is that when the avi file is selected, the audio is going on in the background (which I didn't notice since the laptop was muted before). Seems like some preview is enabled and it plays audio (but not video). Later found not all avi files are playing. Some seems to play audio, others don't. BTW, I don't have the preview window open.

Regardless, I believe this is the reason that is "opened" by Everything and not letting me rename. I will try the couple of suggestions given.

[void]

Uncheck View -> Preview

Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> winmm=false

[takeiteasyjay]

Does this happen with all .avi or only some?
If some, can you throw up a sample.

And to be clear, if Everything is highlighting an .avi, you cannot rename it (in Everything or otherwise).
And if you switch highlight to a different file, then that particular .avi can then be renamed (outside of Everything).

Yes, you are right about the behavior you mentioned.

Test, disable context menu shell extensions in Everything.
If that still makes no difference, then reverse that action.
(You can reverse it anyhow, but you'll need to find the actual cause, but at least it might point you in the correct direction.)

Tried disabling context menu as you mentioned, it didn't help. I am still hearing audio when I select some avi files. And rename didn't work.

What OS?

Windows 11

What version of Everything?

Everything Version 1.5.0.1390a (x64)

Thanks for the help.

[takeiteasyjay]

Uncheck View -> Preview

Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> winmm=false

Yes!!! That works. Thank you so much. Now I can rename peacefully

I am not much of a preview user (except for pictures sometimes). But what is that option and how will impact with this setting?

[void]

winmm
Play the selected file with the Windows Multimedia API.
While winmm can preview video, it is usually for audio only.
winmm does not affect the preview pane.
This settings should be off by default.



To block avi files from the preview pane:

• In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
• Click the Advanced tab on the left.
• To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
  preview
• Select: preview_exclude_files
• Set the value to: *.avi
• Click OK.

[takeiteasyjay]

Thanks for the explanation. I might have forgotten, but possible that I enabled it sometime back.

So the behavior for the preview depends on windows I guess (outside of Everything's scope). Interestingly audio is not played for all avi files, some play some don't.