Everything natural sort broken ?

[anmac1789]

everything sort is wrong in this case, how do I correct this to be more natural ?

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[therube]

Understanding Sort Sequence 2 - Code Point

Yep, it's probably "technically" correct, but not logically - to a human.

Imagine had there been 999 of these numbered files.
To a person looking at it, expecting that single non-suffixed filename to be there at the top, before (in my case) the "... 01" file, one would be like, "where did it go?".
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(BTW, used Everything to rename the files for that ordered number list .)


Now, suppose you had 2^64-1 files, & need to sort them, quickly.
That is something Everything can probably do (that probably cannot be accomplished by anything else).
You'd want as much efficiency as possible.

[therube]

The most natural way might be to rename the suffix-less filename to "... 1".

Unfortunately any number of programs out there that "auto-number" based upon a (naming) collision, start with the basename, then add an incrementally numbered suffix, just in the manner shown.

[therube]

For a singular named output file (xxx.txt), where I want to retain the file (rather then overwrite), I copy the output to a temp name (xxx_out.txt), then rename that filename, as a "date", including seconds. Figuring that I would not output more then 1 file per second (so each renamed file would be unique), & if I happened to hit a duplicate name, the renamer itself would take care of that, automatically (/NODUP).
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rem   print2file.bat 1999-06-04 SjB

rem   file (xxx.txt) is created via 'P8' print driver in config.bbx

rem   show the file (via sf or list or notepad or wordpad or ...)

rem   copy the file to xxx_out (so that the last file "printed" will
rem   remain as xxx.txt & can do a "re-run last report" do dad)

rem   sequentially rename xxx_out so that it will exist & so that a
rem   subsequent p2f will not erase the last file before we get to
rem   review it

rem   3-22-2021 SjB
rem   output in YYMM_counter format (rather then fixed 9000_counter)
rem   see yearmonthday.bat for reference (as one way to do it)

rem   4-9-2021 SjB
rem   echo % date % 04/09/2021
rem   echo % time % 14:01:00.21, & these data/time can be "seg'd"
rem   so instead of have a file name series like: 2104_1, 2104_2 ...
rem   they can be like: 210409.1546.34 210409.1546.36 210409.1821.00
rem   so, YYMMDD.HHMM.ss, where presumably you wouldn't end up with
rem   a dup'd .ss (second) & if you happened to, then /NODUP would
rem   still kick in, so you should still be good...


C:\DEV\RENAME\BRC32.exe  /DIR:c:\tmp  /PATTERN:xxx_out.txt  /REMOVENAME  /FIXEDNAME:%date:~8,2%%date:~0,2%%date:~3,2%.%time:~0,2%%time:~3,2%.%time:~6,2%  /NODUP  /EXECUTE

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Please try including the following in your search:

sort:stem

[anmac1789]

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Please try including the following in your search:

sort:stem

Why should that make a difference though ?

[void]

The extension is ignored in the sort.

space > nothing.

[therube]

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[anmac1789]

Everything - SORT5 - sortstem works but awkward.png

Ok let me try sort:stem