"Tags" proprieties index not updating

[odranoel]

Hello,

About a year ago, I started using everything (1.5 last alpha) at work to make file searches more efficient, and I'm immensely satisfied with it.

Recently, I wanted to take it a step further and organize files using tags. The problem is that the 3D files I work with don't support the tag property, so I decided to expand the properties of these files using File Association Manager (https://github.com/Dijji/FileMeta). I indexed the tag property to include only .3dm files for better efficiency.

Unfortunately, I noticed that once the property is written to the file, everything doesn't update the index unless I rescan (actually, sometimes it worked, and everything showed me the tag property immediately, but most of the time, it doesn't).

Note that I use an external NAS server (not cloud) to store files with about 2 terabytes of data. I tried reducing the workload by including only a few folders (300 GB, 1,700 files), but I'm having the same problem.

I've done several tests at home with my laptop, without using an external NAS, adding properties to other files that don't natively support tags, and the index updates immediately.

I wanted to know if it's a problem with everything or something else. In the meantime, I'm using folders with windows shortcuts as a workaround, but I'm looking for a way to work with tags.

Odranoel

[void]

Thank you for your post Odranoel and for your work on FileMeta,

Everything should re-read all the properties from your .3dm file 1 second after it has been modified.
This is not happening in your case.

Please try selecting your .3dm file and press Ctrl + F5.
Does Everything pickup the new tag? -This will help determine if Everything is reading the tag correctly.

If not, then there's something up with the tag or Everything reading the tag value.

If the tag does show, then maybe there's a read/write violation? Everything trying to read the tag while you're still writing it?

Please try adjusting your Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> property_read_on_change_delay
Try a value of 3000 or more.

Check the .3dm file change is being detected by Everything:
In Everything, from Index menu, click Index Journal.
Add a tag to a .3dm file.
See if the .3dm file is added to your Index Journal.
If it is added as File Modified, then Everything 'should' be re-reading all the properties for the file.
If not, something is up with detecting changes to the NAS.

Debug logs might help:
In Everything, Search for a .3dm files, make sure a .3dm file is listed with no tag.
In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Verbose.
From the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Start Debug Logging.
Add a tag to your .3dm file.
Wait 30 seconds.
From the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
---This will open your Everything Debug Log.txt in Notepad.
Please upload this file in a bug report.

[odranoel]

Good morning

Here are some updates: if I add the tag to the file, the file disappears in everything, even though I can see the file and its tag in file explorer. Even pressing Ctrl+F5 or increasing property_read_on_change_delay to 3000 doesn't change anything. I checked the journal, and it lists the file I added the tag to as "Action file delete" even though I haven't deleted the file and it's still visible in file explorer.
After doing a rescan the file and the tag appear on everything

I've uploaded the Debug logs to bug report.

Another thing I noticed is that if I add a tag to a .3dm file on the desktop the file remains visible on everything but does not show the tag until a new database rebuild i guess, since rescan is not available for local disk.

One more detail, since I stopped a rescan before it finishes or maybe when i added the tag on the desktop file (I dont remember well), it show all the files but without any tags on everything, after new a full rescan of the NAS drive It work again showing previous tags (maybe the database had been temporarily corrupted), although to see new added tags I have to rescan every time as "usual".

Odranoel

[odranoel]

Good morning,
I'm replying here because I can't reply to bug report email.

It doesn't contain personal information, so I'm sharing it here. The correct path was: Y:\RHINOCEROS PREVENTIVI\LIBRERIA\SABA\BABY GEO.3dm

It was a typo on the bug report comment.

As I explained before, as soon as I add the tag the a file it disappears from evrything and does not show the tag until a new rescan, it could be a problem related to File Association Manager?

[void]

Thank you for the logs.

2026-02-10 11:25:03.018: RDC REMOVED Y:\RHINOCEROS PREVENTIVI\LIBRERIA\SABA\BABY GEO.3dm

This is the last event for the file.
The NAS reports the file as removed.
Please try updating your NAS Firmware/OS.

2026-02-10 11:25:03.064: SHCNE GET FD 8192 Y:\RHINOCEROS PREVENTIVI\LIBRERIA\SABA\BABY GEO.3dm

The shell still sees your file.
Disabling ReadDirectoryChanges might help:

• In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
• Click the Advanced tab on the left.
• To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
  changes
• Select: read_directory_changes
• Set the value to: false
• Click OK.

With ReadDirectoryChanges disabled, Everything will be unable to detect remote changes to your NAS.
Only changes made locally will be detected.

[odranoel]

Thanks for the reply

The NAS reports the file as removed.

So is it a problem with how the NAS records events? In fact, the journal also marks it as deleted, but in reality the file has not been deleted, simply the tag has been added.

Disabling ReadDirectoryChanges might help:

Unfortunately nothing has changed and having collaborators it would be interesting to be able to act in parallel

odranoel