VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

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Laura
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VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

Hi :)

I'm having the problem that partitions loaded by Veracrypt aren't visible; it was the same in older versions as well.

If I go into the Everything settings, I see some loaded partitions present in Indexes - Fat, others in Indexes - NTFS, and others completely absent. I tried changing the default settings a bit, but the only way I found to get them indexed is to add them as folders.
void
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by void »

Thank you for the issue report Laura,

What filesystem is the drive that is absent from Everything?

Could you please send some debug information:
In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Start Debug Logging.
In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
Click the NTFS tab on the left.
Close the Options window.
In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
---This will open your %TEMP%\Everything Debug Log.txt
Could you please upload this file in a bug report.
Laura
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

Thanks' :)

I tried deleting everything, keeping only the .exe. When I started it, a message appeared that said Everything is shutting down. I clicked wait, but it reappeared, so I clicked Terminate, and Everything opened. I went into the options and saw that all the drives mounted by VeraCrypt were now present. I thought the problem was solved, but if I searched for the letter Z (which I don't know what filesystem it has, but they were all created by VeraCrypt), it didn't find anything. So I went into the FAT options and saw that the "Include in database" options, which are already enabled in NTFS, are not enabled by default. So I clicked on each of the partitions I had in FAT, and lo and behold, the problem was solved and they were correctly indexed. Anyway, I sent you the debug report anyway.
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

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Laura wrote: Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:08 pm I'm having the problem that partitions loaded by Veracrypt aren't visible; it was the same in older versions as well. ... I see some loaded partitions present in Indexes - Fat, others in Indexes - NTFS, and others completely absent.
Hi Laura.
I use VeraCrypt on a data partition of my SSD. I too have NTFS, FAT, but as well have been persuaded to use Tools, Options, Indexes - Folders and it works for me.

To complicate things, I uses the DOS command SUBST to map folders to drive letters, for example

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subst S: "T:\Pers\Things\Audio Books\AA MIlne\Once A Week"
Now I have a drive "S" and can add to the Folders option the folder "S:\"

This works for me.

That said, it may be that I have been steered around a bug-fix, but I have waited 24 hours for someone more knowledgeable than me to suggest trying Tools, Options, Indexes - Folders.
Cheers, Chris
Laura
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

Thanks :)

Adding them as folders works perfectly, but my concern is that it might give duplicate results since they're both in FAT/NTFS and as folders. Or, it might simply be a little slower because it has to search through more data.

I won't comment on the DOS command because it's too complicated for me.

I'm still struggling with the fact that when I connect removable hard drives, they always get the same drive letter, so I have a lot of data that seems to all belong to the same hard drive when in reality they're on different hard drives. This causes confusion, and I don't know where to go to find the file I'm looking for... but I've already discussed this issue with @void, and I know he's working on it ;)
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by void »

Thank you for the debug logs.

The Z: drive is exFAT.
Included in database is unchecked for your Z: under FAT indexes.

Indexing your Z: drive as a folder index or FAT index will have the same performance.

When using FAT indexing, Everything will track the drive by volume. (ideal if you have multiple drives share the Z: drive)
When using Folder indexing, no tracking by volume is done -if you have multiple drives use the Z: letter, your index will end up being replaced with the contents of current Z: drive.



Press F5 in the FAT options window or reopen the options window to refresh available volumes.

If you have already added your Z: drive to your index, after the VeraCrypt drive as been dismounted, it might take Everything a minute to see your VeraCrypt drive after it is remounted.


I'm still struggling with the fact that when I connect removable hard drives, they always get the same drive letter, so I have a lot of data that seems to all belong to the same hard drive when in reality they're on different hard drives. This causes confusion, and I don't know where to go to find the file I'm looking for... but I've already discussed this issue with @void, and I know he's working on it ;)
Disable "Automatically include new fixed volumes" and "Automatically remove offline volumes" if you want full control over which volumes are included in your index.
Do this in both FAT and NTFS options window.

Please try the Volume Label column to help identify which drives are which.
Laura
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

Thanks.

I started from scratch, so theoretically, Everything should have searched for all files on each drive, but it didn't until I enabled the FAT options. So, perhaps I should enable them by default to prevent others from having the same problem.

But if I disable "Automatically include new fixed volumes" and "Automatically remove offline volumes," how do I know which external HD the file I'm looking for is on?
Adding a new column takes up too much space, and it's useless until an external drive is connected, especially since the drive name is already written in the path, so I'd prefer not to have to use it.

Isn't it possible to have the Label column only appear when doing a global search (i.e., with the search bar empty)? I think that would be the ideal solution. If someone has no idea where a file is located, Everything shows you the exact HD it's on. But if you use it normally, it only searches the HDs you have connected at that moment, so you don't need to see the Label.
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

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I started from scratch, so theoretically, Everything should have searched for all files on each drive, but it didn't until I enabled the FAT options. So, perhaps I should enable them by default to prevent others from having the same problem.
Everything does not index FAT volumes by default.

"Automatically include new fixed volumes" and "Automatically remove offline volumes" are off by default for FAT volumes.


But if I disable "Automatically include new fixed volumes" and "Automatically remove offline volumes," how do I know which external HD the file I'm looking for is on?
One idea is to use another instance for all your external drives.

Multiple Instances

Show the Volume label in this instance only.

Just index fixed drives with your normal, unnamed instance.



Another idea is to create a filter that searches external drives and shows the volume label column:
In Everything, from the Search menu, click Add to filters....
Change the Name to: External Drives
Change the Search to:
!c: !d:

Where c: and d: are your fixed drives.
Change Columns to: Volume Label
Click OK.

Filters can be activated from the Search menu, Filter bar (View -> Filter Bar), Filter sidebar (View -> Filters), right clicking the status bar, filter macro or filter keyboard shortcut.
Filters can be organized from Search menu -> Organize filters.


Isn't it possible to have the Label column only appear when doing a global search (i.e., with the search bar empty)? I think that would be the ideal solution. If someone has no idea where a file is located, Everything shows you the exact HD it's on. But if you use it normally, it only searches the HDs you have connected at that moment, so you don't need to see the Label.
When the search is empty? you can do this with a filter:
Search -> Add to filters...
Change the Name to: Empty Search Volume Label
Change the Search to:

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#[IFLEN:$param:#,:$param:#,:add-column:volume-label#]:
and the opposite if you want to show the volume-label when the search is not empty:

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#[IFLEN:$param:#,:add-column:volume-label $param:#]:


Please try the folders sidebar, select a folder or multiple folders to limit the results to certain drives.



Other searches that might help if you want to experiment with other filters:
!offline:
- match online files only.

Items that are offline should be greyed out.
Laura
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

Thanks :)

First of all, I apologize because I may not have fully understood your advice due to the limitations of my English and Google Translate.
I'm excluding multiple instances because I'd have to search twice to find out if a file is on one of my connected hard drives or one of my disconnected ones.

I don't want to have an active label field; my monitor isn't large, and I already have many fields displayed. Perhaps it would be enough if the names of files on external drives (which are grayed out) showed the name of the drive they're mounted on when you hover over them. That would be very useful, especially for those who typically have many external hard drives and perhaps connect two or three at the same time.
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

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I will add an option to customize which properties are shown in the detailed tooltip (when hovering over the icon or thumbnail)

Thank you for the suggestion.



For now, one idea is to adjust the status bar selected item format:
  • In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Advanced tab on the left.
  • To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
    statusbar
  • Select: statusbar_selected_item_format
  • Set the value to:

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    statusbar_selected_item_format=$o items   |   Size: $s   |   Date Modified: $m   |   Path: $p   |   Label: $volume-label:
    
  • Click OK.
Status Bar Format
Laura
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

Thank you for your time :)

I set up the systray command and it's a really great solution!

Thanks :)
void
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

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Everything 1.5.0.1401a adds an advanced listview_detailed_tooltip_add_properties setting.

To show the volume label when hovering over the icon or thumbnail:
  • In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Advanced tab on the left.
  • To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
    tooltip
  • Select: listview_detailed_tooltip_add_properties
  • Set the value to: volume-label
  • Click OK.
show_detailed_listview_tooltips
Laura
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Re: VeraCrypt problem (even in older versions)

Post by Laura »

fantastic, you are very kind :)
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