Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

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voidme
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Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by voidme »

Is it possible to index "Encoded date" and "Tagged date"? Of video files. And maybe other MediaInfo data?
But "Encoded date" is my main question.
therube
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by therube »

If "Encoded date" is the same as (what Windows | Properties) calls "Media created" (which I'm unsure)
then Everything 1.5 Alpha may be able to do it.
voidme
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

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therube wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:25 pm If "Encoded date" is the same as (what Windows | Properties) calls "Media created" (which I'm unsure)
then Everything 1.5 Alpha may be able to do it.
I have 1.5.
Unfortunately, although one would/could think so, it's not the same. Sometimes it's the same date. Often, Everything sees the "Media Created" date, but not the "Encoded date", while I know it's in the metadata.
Also 'Content Created' is not it.
therube
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by therube »

Is it possible to index "Encoded date" and "Tagged date"? Of video files. And maybe other MediaInfo data?
I kind of glossed over the MediaInfo part.
So MediaInfo sees this data (Encode date, Tagged date).

But does Windows Explorer | Properties see that data?

If not, then thinking that Everything also will not see that data.
(There has been discussion of "MediaInfo" data.)

There is the possibility that something like (& I'm not sure offhand if it can or can not) Icaros could add said data (as a Windows Property), & if so, then Everything should then be able to see it?
voidme
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by voidme »

therube wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:50 pm But does Windows Explorer | Properties see that data?
If not, then thinking that Everything also will not see that data.
(There has been discussion of "MediaInfo" data.)
I don't see 'Encoded date' in Windows10 in the file properties.
But: if I index dimensions (which I do), Everything reads every jpg/mp4 file anyway, it doesn't take the info from NTFS (which is probably in internal memory). It loads every single file to get the dimensions. So, while it's opening every single file physically, it could in the same process, also get the 'Encoded Date', it will be in the header of the video file.
If Everything can't index it currently, I will do a wishlist post.
void
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by void »

Everything has the following property:

Media Created

Everything will first try to gather values for this property from the Windows Property System
system.media.dateencoded
property.
Windows calls this property "Media created".

If no value is found, Everything will fallback to native support for:

PNG -> tIME
MKV -> info -> 0x4461
MP4 -> ftyp -> moov -> mvhd -> creation_time



Please check if your encoded date shows up for any properties:
In Everything, select a file that you know has an "encoded date".
Right click the Everything result list column header and click Add to Columns...
In the Property Select dialog, right click the result list column header and check Preview.
Look through all the properties for your "Encoded date" value.
Do the same for the Windows Property System properties on the right.
-Please let me know what property shows your "Encoded date"
voidme
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by voidme »

void wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 11:28 pm Everything has the following property: Media Created
Ok, but that's out of the scope of my wish.
Everything will first try to gather values for this property from the Windows Property System
system.media.dateencoded
property.
Windows calls this property "Media created".
If no value is found, Everything will fallback to native support for:
PNG -> tIME
MKV -> info -> 0x4461
MP4 -> ftyp -> moov -> mvhd -> creation_time
That means 'Media Created' in Everything does not always reflect the same property. It's not consistent.
In the Property Select dialog, right click the result list column header and check Preview.
Look through all the properties for your "Encoded date" value.
Then, there is no field 'Encoded date'. Still, the video players sees a 'Encoded date'.
Do the same for the Windows Property System properties on the right.
-Please let me know what property shows your "Encoded date"
As I said, I don't see that property listed in File Explorer (in Windows 10) at all.
I don't think it's part of the 'Windows Property System'.

What I wish is an index of 'Encoded Date', _exactly_ as a video player shows. That is not the case:
-Sometimes where a video player sees a 'Encoded Date', the field 'Media Created' in Everything 1.5 is _empty_.
-Sometimes where a video player sees a 'Encoded Date', it equals the field 'Media Created' in Everything 1.5.
That's not reliable or consistent.
If the video player does _not_ see an 'Encoded Date', then, I'd want to be that field also empty in Everything (that is, if the field 'Encoded Date' exists in Everything, which does not seem to be the case).

There are other fields under ''MediaInfo" in a video player, like 'Codec ID', which also aren't available in Everything / File Explorer properties. But those fields are (currently) less important for me.
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by void »

Please send me (support@voidtools.com, bugreport or send me a link) a video where the encoded date differs to Everything Media Created.
There's no specifications on date encoded.
I'll see what I can do for common formats.
therube
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Re: Is it possible to index "Encoded date"?

Post by therube »

as a video player shows
Any particular video player? All video players?
And if particular player, how do you go about displaying said information?
(Some players have various ways to display differing types of info.)

Does this video player gather such information using MediaInfo?
If it does, that information is not necessarily available elsewhere (other players that do not rely on MI, nor Windows itself).

MediaInfo could be incorporated into Everything, but guess it is outside the (current) scope.
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