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Stamimail
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Secondary Search

Post by Stamimail » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:09 am

1. Sometimes you like to find a text in the results screen without affecting the results.
I suggest to add a Find bar, like there are in (pressing Ctrl+F of) Internet Browsers.
The Results screen won't be changed when typing to the Find bar, and the text found in the Results will be highlighted.
Text means all text, include Dates/RunCount... columns.

2. Another type of a secondary search might be useful is:
Another Search Box below the main Search Box.
It would be like a continuation of the main Search Box, as if there is an "AND" between the search boxes.

For example, it might be useful when there is a "path" to a folder in the main Search Box (like "c:\program files"), and you need to do a several "sub" searches with those results. This makes it easier to handle.
Or, when you want to omit results by the Right Click (Context Menu). All !"<FullPath> "s can be added to the secondary Search Box. It makes the main Search Box more readable.

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Re: Secondary Search

Post by therube » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:50 pm

1. Quick Searching (the results file list)


2. I wouldn't necessarily want another "bar", but rather a way to temporarily lock a part of an existing search term. Something like a poor man's Filter.

So instead of creating a Filter, say, 'Trains', you do a search for Trains, "lock" that part (not sure how offhand), then you can just type red to get red trains or blue to get blue trains.

Red or Blue (or whatever) are variable, the Trains part is "locked".

Not a whole lot different from typing 'Trains Red' or 'Trains Blue', might just make it a bit more convenient.

(As it is I have a "DUMY" Filter to do something like that, that I modified the [same DUMY] filter when I'm looking for related items like that. So I enable the DUMY Filter, which is a search for 'Trains', then all I need to type on the search line is, 'red', or 'blue'. But say I'm done with trains & I want to do Flowers, I have to manually edit the Filter, DUMY, & change Trains to Flowers. And once again 'red' finds red flowers & blue, blue flowers.

Being able to "lock" a search term - without having to manually edit a Filter, would be more convenient.)

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Re: Secondary Search

Post by void » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:58 am

suggest to add a Find bar, like there are in (pressing Ctrl+F of) Internet Browsers.
A Find bar is on my TODO list.
Another Search Box below the main Search Box.
I'll consider a secondary search box for Everything 1.5.

Thanks for the suggestions!
2. I wouldn't necessarily want another "bar", but rather a way to temporarily lock a part of an existing search term. Something like a poor man's Filter.
I might be able to work this in with the planned "temporary exclude" option, maybe a "temporary include/filter" option...

harryray2
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Re: Secondary Search

Post by harryray2 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:16 am

A find bar is a great idea!!

NotNull
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Re: Secondary Search

Post by NotNull » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:16 pm

Every once in a while I get a result list with a lot of files in a folder that I'm not interested in. Those clutter up the result list. 'Of course' this folder has an extremely long name (when you have to type it to exclude it)

Process Monitor (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysint ... ds/procmon) has the same "problem" as Everything has:
find the needle in the haystack in a structured result list.
Procmon tries to solve this by creating a context menu for each column entry: Enable/disable/highlight/edit filter. (procmon filter does not equal Everything filter)
Maybe this can be useful in Everything to:
- rightclick on a path: Search only in this path / Exclude this path from search
- rightclick on a date: Search only newer files / Search only older files
And those choices would be added to the search query

Something like that ...

void
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Re: Secondary Search

Post by void » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:20 pm

- rightclick on a path: Search only in this path / Exclude this path from search
- rightclick on a date: Search only newer files / Search only older files
I'll consider it, thanks for the suggestion!

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Re: Secondary Search

Post by NotNull » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:12 pm

Now I see that I forgot an (important?) part of my message:

Instead of saving as part of the search query, you could also save it like this (along the lines of the suggested secondary search):
2018-02-08 23_06_18-Process Monitor Filter.png
In the case of procmon there is no possibility of grouping and other advanced AND OR constructions.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Stamimail
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Re: Secondary Search

Post by Stamimail » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:26 pm

Regarding "two Search Box" (or more):
I had thoughts about + and x buttons.
when clicking the + button:
One idea is to add the second search box below the (original) first search box. Pressing + again, will show a third search box below..
(Home)
☗[_______________________________________________________________]+
ⓧ[_______________________________________________________________]+
ⓧ[_______________________________________________________________]+

Second idea is to split the original search box. Each time you press the + button, you get another box. You can also add And/OR combo button in middle.

[________________________________][AND][______________][OR][________][AND][_____________________]+/-
(I know that there is a problem of precedence ...)

void
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Re: Secondary Search

Post by void » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:34 pm

I experimented with the advanced search having a list of filters, where you could add a filter and set the operator AND/OR. I ended up going with the simpler to use option of having all search options available.

A "filter builder" would be useful for other conditions, such as "end with".

Thanks for the suggestions.

aviasd
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Re: Secondary Search

Post by aviasd » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:00 pm

void wrote:
- rightclick on a path: Search only in this path / Exclude this path from search
- rightclick on a date: Search only newer files / Search only older files
I'll consider it, thanks for the suggestion!
+1
Actually I've expanded on this idea in a post a few months ago with cascading children list on right click the folder path column... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6450
cheers

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