Volume C stopped being indexed

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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Thank you for the service logs.

I am looking into the issue.



To rebuild just one drive:

In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
/reindex c:

where c: is the drive to reindex.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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void wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:09 am [...]
To rebuild just one drive:

In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
/reindex c:

where c: is the drive to reindex.
An option to rebuild just one volume should be available after choosing lets say

Tools > Options... > Indexes > NTFS > Local NTFS volumes > CONTEXT MENU OF A DRIVE > Advanced > Force Rebuild This Volume
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Everything 1.5.0.1361a adds an option to rebuild a specific volume from Tools -> Options -> NTFS.

For example, to reindex your C: drive:
  • In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the NTFS tab on the left.
  • Select C:.
  • Right click C: and click Reindex.
  • Click OK.
Thanks again for the suggestion.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Do you want me to rebuild my volume C and thus wait for the next occurrence of it not being indexed anymore once more - or should I wait out just a little longer before rebuilding it, as any time now you will update Everything with some new debugging additions?
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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I have on my TODO list to dump the Everything Service Monitoring state when starting debug logging.

Once this is done I'll send you an email in hopes we can catch the issue.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Everything 1.5.0.1362a will now log the Everything service state when starting service debug logging.

The next time you notice Everything has stopped monitoring your C: drive, could you please:
  • In Everything, hold down Shift, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Service Verbose.
  • In Everything, hold down Shift, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Start Service Debug Logging.
  • In Everything, hold down Shift, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Service Debug Logging.
  • Please send your C:\Windows\Temp\Everything Service Debug Log-1.5a.txt to support@voidtools.com
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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I downloaded version 1.5.0.1363a (x64) Portable, replaced my old 1359a with it and was about to start debugging my still not re-indexed manually C drive with it - but I noticed that the issue is one again gone: i.e. my system drive is being updated immediately and thus (I suppose) it is up to date now

But if this problem comes back I will once again write down debugging logs an send them to you
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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In the meantime: as pointed out by me at the end of this discussion viewtopic.php?p=61944#p61944, maybe what is triggering such stopping of indexing is me using this BAT script

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@echo off

taskkill /im Everything.exe
timeout /t 1 >nul
taskkill /im Everything.exe /t /f

net stop "Everything (1.5a)"
?

I can go days without a need for running it even once it - but there are also hours when I [like when mingling with Options] use it multiple times - and so maybe too many too often make it probable or something in my INI files to become broken?
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Please avoid terminating Everything and the Everything Service.
You'll lose all changes to your settings and database.

If you must terminate Everything, please try removing the
net stop "Everything (1.5a)"
line.



It can take several minutes to save your database to disk.
Please create a mini crash dump if you find Everything is not responding on shutdown.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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And once again my volume C has stopped being indexed; a few weeks ago. Then, a couple of days ago, I have upgraded Everything to version 1.5.0.1371a x64 Portable- but it did not fix itself

And so: are you ready for a new set of logs from me?
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Yes, please send the logs to support@voidtools.com
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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I have just sent you yet another instance of

C:\Windows\Temp\Everything Service Debug Log-1.5a.txt
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Thank you for the debug logs.

Everything is not handling incomplete IO errors correctly and is not handling stale USN Journals correctly.

Could you please see if the issue persists with Everything 1.5.0.1372a.
Everything 1.5.0.1372a addresses both of these issues which can cause Everything to stop monitoring your C: drive.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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1372a still does monitor my volume C - should I rescan it and report back?
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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No need to rescan, just report back if Everything stops indexing your C: drive or stops detecting changes on your C: drive.

Thanks for testing.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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As I said: the new version does not detect new files

It also does not notice deletion of already indexed ones
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Could you please send some more debug output:
  • In Everything, hold down Shift, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Service Verbose.
  • In Everything, hold down Shift, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Start Service Debug Logging.
  • Create a new folder C:\EverythingTest
  • Delete this folder.
  • Wait for at least one minute to let the logger catch any monitoring errors.
  • In Everything, hold down Shift, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Service Debug Logging.
  • Please send your C:\Windows\Temp\Everything Service Debug Log-1.5a.txt to support@voidtools.com


Could you also do the same for the client side logs:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Verbose.
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Start Debug Logging.
  • Create a new folder C:\EverythingTest
  • Delete this folder.
  • Wait for at least one minute to let the logger catch any monitoring errors.
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
  • Please send your %TEMP%\Everything Debug Log-1.5a.txt to support@voidtools.com
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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I just did
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Thank you for the logs.

I see Everything is regathering the free disk size for your root folders every second.

This might prevent Everything from updating.

Could you please try removing Free Disk Size from Tools -> Options -> Properties and see if the issue persists.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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Ah, I am 99% sure it's from enabling Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> monitor_thread_mode_background

Please set this option to false.

When this option is enabled, Everything will only monitor your drives when they are idle.

Your C: will likely never be idle.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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void wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:16 am [...]
Could you please try removing Free Disk Size from Tools -> Options -> Properties and see if the issue persists.
There had to be a reason why I added it - and most likely there has to be some topic on this forum in which I was instructed to use this option, but I just failed at finding it

For now I will leave that one as it is


As for this one
void wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:30 am Ah, I am 99% sure it's from enabling Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> monitor_thread_mode_background

Please set this option to false.

When this option is enabled, Everything will only monitor your drives when they are idle.

Your C: will likely never be idle.
if this is true then it would affect also many other users right? And if yes then

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monitor_thread_mode_background
should be split into

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monitor_thread_mode_background_for_non-system_drives
and

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monitor_thread_mode_background_for_the_system_drive
[being by default set to false] to prevent that issue from happening, right?

I have turned it off but it seems that I also must re-index volume C, as new items are still not showing up. If you will tell me now to rebuild I will and then report back when indexing stops once again or after months if it will finally not occur for the n-th time
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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monitor_thread_mode_background comes with a warning.
Enabling can severely reduce the update performance of Everything.
I will likely remove monitor_thread_mode_background as it causes more issues than it helps.

There's only one monitoring thread.
I will consider a system and non-system thread.



The default value is: false.
Please set to false (the default value)



You will need to restart Everything after changing this setting.
No need to rebuild.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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I closed it including that monitoring process and after reopening double checked if

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monitor_thread_mode_background
was still set to false - and yet new items from C are still not showing up. So I need to index it once more, right?
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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You are running Everything in portable mode.

The Everything Service will be pulling this setting too.

Please exit Everything (File -> Exit)
Stop the Everything Service (Ctrl + Shift + ESC -> Task Manager -> Services -> Right click Everything -> Stop Service)
Restart Everything.

See if Everything is now picking up changes to your C: drive.
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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void wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:43 am You are running Everything in portable mode.

The Everything Service will be pulling this setting too.
[...]
As I said I already did close
Thy Grand Voidinesss wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:37 am [...]
it including that monitoring process
[...]
but as it turns out it was not true as my method for it has stopped working and I did not bother to check if it is still running in the Task Manager [viewtopic.php?p=66995#p66995]

But now I did make sure [i.e. double checked] if all EXE files of Everything were closed before re-opening of it - and yet I still do not get update of items
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Re: Volume C stopped being indexed

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As I was still having problem with that closing issue I decided to investigate it further: viewtopic.php?p=67406#p67406

And now after it has been bluntly removed [i.e. not uninstalled but simply deleted] my Everything has immediately started to notice changes on my volume C. And as I was still waiting for an answer from you and thus did not perform reindexing - then this was just a coincidence [i.e. some time before something else had triggered Everything to once more properly monitor my volume C] or it was precisely that removal of installed 1.4.1.1022 x64 that has fixed it once more

All in all a time can tell if 1.5 x64 portable will continue to work properly from now [i.e. without a presence of second installed old version on my system]
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