Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

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frankie666
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Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by frankie666 »

Hi, on some of drives I have folders sync with Nextcloud. It seems that Everything does not index (include) these folders. For instance on my c: drive I have a c:\ahk which is sync with Nextcloud. If I try to search with Everything "c: *.ahk" it does not return ahk files included in c:\ahk... Same issue for nextcloud folders on other drives.
Any idea of the issue or the mistake I have done.
Thanks for any help.
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

Please try adding your Nextcloud folder as a folder index:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Folders tab.
  • Click Add....
  • Select your Nextcloud folder and click OK.
  • Click OK.

If you are unable to select your Nextcloud folder, please ensure Everything is running as a standard user:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Check Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Check Everything Service. (Please make sure this is tick-checked and not square-checked)
  • Click OK.
  • Exit Everything (right click the Everything tray icon and click Exit).
  • Restart Everything.
frankie666
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by frankie666 »

Thanks a lot for your help! and sorry for my late reply...
It works fine, again thanks a lot you make my day.
What's the reason for being obliged to add the path of the nexcloud folder (ie c:\ahk) under Folders whilst my c: drive is already included/indexed under NTFS ? Is it an issue specific to nextcloud or it is the way everything works ?
Thanks and best.
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

The c:\ahk is likely a folder junction to your Nexcloud volume.

Technically, the contents of c:\ahk do not exist on your C:
c:\ahk is a link to another volume.



You can confirm this from a command prompt:
  • From the Start menu, search for: cmd
  • Click Command Prompt.
  • Type in the following commands:

    Code: Select all

    cd \
    dir /ad
    
  • This will list ahk something like:
    04/05/2022 11:06 <JUNCTION> ahk [\??\Volume{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}\]


Everything will only index the files that truly exist on your C: drive when indexing this drive as an NTFS volume.
frankie666
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by frankie666 »

According to the picture below my AHK folder is not a folder junction but anyway thanks for your help and for your explanation. It works that's the most important. :D

https://imgur.com/a/RUTmO5t
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

I think there might be something going on here, either an update in Nextcloud or Everything because I swear it was indexing it before. Nextcloud is also a regular directory. It's not considered a System or Hidden directory, and it's owned by my user. I have Everything 1.4.1.1017 and Nextcloud Desktop 3.5.2. I'll add it manually, but it just seems odd.
Johnny67
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by Johnny67 »

Hi,
does anyone have any news on this topic?
I'm new to Everything. As a NextCloud user, I would like to search my NextCloud content using Everything.
I was able to add the NextCloud folder accordingly to the description posted here.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work.
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work.
What happens?
Does Everything find any files in your local cloud folder?
or, are some files missing?



Nextcloud 3.5.4 and Everything 1.4.1.1017 appears to be working here.
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

Just to add some info for OP since I also seem to be experiencing this issue:

Previously, I had to add Nextcloud as an explicit directory in the Indexes -> Folders options menu to force Everything to index it. I just tried removing it to see if Everything will automatically pick it up, and after I tried several searches for folders and files located within my Nextcloud directory, Everything comes back with unrelated results. I can still find other files within my filesystem. It's as if Everything is ignoring the Nextcloud directory, unless it's explicitly told to index it with the aforementioned option.

I know I can see debug output in a console window, is there any way I can attach that as a file if it'd be helpful to you?

Operating system: Windows 10 21H2 64-bit
Everything: 1.4.1.1017
Nextcloud: 3.5.4
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

Thank you for the information.

Please send the debug logs to support@voidtools.com
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

void wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:24 pm Thank you for the information.

Please send the debug logs to support@voidtools.com
Before I do this, is there anything I should do to help trigger or provide useful information in the debug log?
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

Running Everything as an administrator may prevent Everything from accessing your Nextcloud folder.

Please make sure Everything is installed correctly and running as a standard user:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Check Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Check Everything Service. (Please make sure this is tick-checked and not square-checked)
  • Click OK.
  • Exit Everything (right click the Everything tray icon and click Exit).
  • Restart Everything.


Please forcing a rebuild with debug logging enabled:
  • Copy and paste the following into the Everything search box:
    /debug_log
  • Press ENTER in the Everything search box.
  • From the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Indexes tab on the left.
  • Click Force Rebuild.
  • Click OK.
    ---wait for Everything to finish indexing---
  • From the File menu, click Exit.
  • Restart Everything.
  • Please send your %TEMP%\Everything Debug Log.txt to support@voidtools.com
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

Thank you for the guide void. I've verified that all options were set correctly, and I attempted an index rebuild before restarting Everything. Here's the debug log. It looks like it mostly was just Firefox doing normal operations. Would it be helpful in the future if I wrote/moved a file in my Nextcloud directory?
Last edited by void on Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: removed logs
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

Thank you for the debug logs.

The logs show Everything indexing your C:, D: and E: drive.

There are a lot of excluded files/folders.
Your Nextcloud folder might be excluded.
What are you excluding under Tools -> Options -> Exclude?

Could you please send your %APPDATA%\Everything.ini to support@voidtools.com

In Everything, if you search for c:\nextcloud
where c:\nextcloud is your nextcloud folder, does Everything find any files/folders at all?

Please make sure no search options are checked under the Search menu (eg: uncheck match case, uncheck match whole words, uncheck regex)
Please make sure the Everything filter is active under the Search menu.
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

You're welcome, and sorry I forgot your instruction to email you the log!
Your Nextcloud folder might be excluded.
What are you excluding under Tools -> Options -> Exclude?
My exclude settings are set to exclude hidden and system files/folders, as well as three directories per the Exclude option menu, two of them being private document locations that I don't want indexed, and the third being my Windows folder that I didn't want indexed anyways. The include/exclude file fields are empty.
Could you please send your %APPDATA%\Everything.ini to support@voidtools.com
I will, and this time make sure I actually email you :D
In Everything, if you search for c:\nextcloud
where c:\nextcloud is your nextcloud folder, does Everything find any files/folders at all?
My Nextcloud folder is located at C:\Users\[my username]\Nextcloud, so if I enter that path into the search bar, the result is empty. The Search menu is entirely unchecked besides the filter mode, which is set to Everything.

Email coming shortly. Thank you again for your help.
Nyks
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by Nyks »

Hi,
i want to confirm this issue.
I'm using Everything for a few years now, without problems.
Since a few weeks I use the nextcloud windows client. Beside the standard-nextcloud-folder (in users/.../nextcloud), I set created a sync-job in nextcloud for my large pictures-folder ("d:\Eigene Bilder").
This folder used to be indexed correctly, but since I started using the cloud-synchronization, the files and folders from the directory no longer show up in EVERYTHING.
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

void has been working with me over email, and it looks like we've found the source of the issue with Nextcloud not being indexed.

I'm not exactly sure why, but it does appear that Nextcloud is creating the data folder with the System flag which Everything will ignore if the option is set. To double check, open a command prompt to the directory holding your Nextcloud folder, and run attrib /D. In the list you should see an S next to your Nextcloud folder. Simply run attrib /D -S Nextcloud, and this will remove the System attribute from the folder. Everything is now indexing my Nextcloud folder, and Nextcloud is still syncing properly.
void
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by void »

Thank you for the issue report Nyks,

If the issue persists,

Please try adding your nextcloud folder as a folder index in Everything:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Folders tab.
  • Click Add....
  • Select your NextCloud folder and click OK.
  • Click OK.
Nyks
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by Nyks »

findslash wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:37 pm I'm not exactly sure why, but it does appear that Nextcloud is creating the data folder with the System flag
Oh, seems to be true.

Now, i opened CMD, and with "dir" the synced folder DON't show up in the command prompt.

But "dir /as" (for listing system items) will work to show the synced folder. :evil:

I really hope, I won't see later issues with removing the system-flag.
findslash
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Re: Everything not indexing Nexcloud folders

Post by findslash »

For anyone interested, I've posted a topic on the Nextcloud community seeking answers for why the desktop client has this behavior. Feel free to subscribe there.
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