System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Trevor22
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System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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1.5 alpha with content indexing enabled causes my system to freeze. It uses all of the memory on my PC. Even after setting the "Maximum size" Content setting to something like 2 GB, the program still uses up over 10 GB of memory and then crashes my system. I've replicated this problem on several PCs. Also, I am using the "include only" file setting to minimize the number of files indexed.

Has anyone found a way to stop this from happening?
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Everything stores content in memory.

Please try excluding more files with content filters under Tools -> Options -> Content.

The Maximum size is per file (not the content index size)

Content indexing in Everything is designed for indexing a few user documents (< 1 GB of text)



10 GB is a lot of text.
What file extensions are you indexing?
Everything uses system iFilters to read text from non-text files.
It's possible a shell extension is getting stuck reading content here.
Please try limiting your content indexing to text/plain files only and see if the issue persists.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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void wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:38 pm
Please try limiting your content indexing to text/plain files only and see if the issue persists.
I just tried your suggestion. When I limit to text files, it works fine, but when I add in .pdf and .docx, it consumes all available memory on the machine and then locks up.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Please try including docx files.

Does the issue persists?



What PDF viewer do you have?



Everything will show the current pdf/docx file being index under Tools -> Options -> Content.
Is Everything getting stuck on a particular file?



Please make sure you are using the x64 version of Everything
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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It still locks up after adding docx. As files are being indexed, the memory usage seems to gradually climb and then eventually the PC runs out of memory, but it doesn't seem to get stuck on any file in particular.

I'm using Adobe Acrobat Pro XI .

Thanks again
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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void wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:38 pm Everything stores content in memory.
...
Content indexing in Everything is designed for indexing a few user documents (< 1 GB of text)
10 GB is a lot of text.
2Trevor22
Below is an example of how I handle this issue and to show how quickly the 1 GB limit RAM is reached/exceeded.
 
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Content indexed: ~ 35,000 files ... Size: 16 GB

Code: Select all

*.txt;*.pdf;*.doc;*.docx;*.xls;*.xlsm;*.xlsx;*.csv;*.md;*.ion;*.ini;*.eml;*.odt
ext:txt;pdf;doc;docx;xls;xlsm;xlsx;csv;md;ion;ini;eml;odt
Hereof

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ext:pdf  ~ 3,500 files ... Size: 14 GB
ext:docx ~ 2,500 files ... Size: 65 MB
In addition to the documents mentioned above, I also index a few file properties.

For all other file types that are to be searched for content, I use Windows Search.
In Everything it is possible to access Windows Search with the parameter si: and display the search result in Everything.
It is highly recommended to set the Windows Search indexing options accurately.
 
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Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 22H2 (OS build 22621.963) | Adobe Acrobat 11 Pro - Version 11.0.23
'Everything' 1.5.0.1331a (x64) | C:\Everything\Everything64.exe - "Portable on system drive C:"
Microsoft® Outlook® LTSC MSO (16.0.14332.20431) 64-Bit (Part of: Microsoft Office LTSC Professional Plus 2021)
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12600K 12th Gen, 3.70 GHz, 10 Cores, 16 Logical Processors
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable) | System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Trevor22
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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tuska wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:52 pm
2Trevor22
Below is an example of how I handle this issue and to show how quickly the 1 GB limit RAM is reached/exceeded.
 
Thanks for this. Since Everything index seems to use more memory than Windows Search Index, why do you use both indexes instead of only using Windows Search Index?
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Thank you for the information Trevor22,

I thought there might be a memory leak here for docx files.
However, I haven't been able to produce a memory leak my end.

How many docx files are you content indexing? (search for: *.docx )
What is the size of all your docx files? (search for: *.docx -total size is shown in the status bar on the bottom right)
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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If the system iFilter fails to load the docx file, then Everything will treat the content as text/plain.
This will most likely lead to undesired results and over-allocation for each docx file.
-The next alpha update will no longer treat file types with registered iFilters as text/plain.



Are you running Everything as an administrator?
Is [Administrator] shown in the window title bar?

Please make sure Everything is installed correctly and running as a standard user:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Check Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Check Everything Service. (Please make sure this is tick-checked and not square-checked)
  • Click OK.
  • Exit Everything (right click the Everything tray icon and click Exit).
  • Restart Everything.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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void wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:28 am Thank you for the information Trevor22,

I thought there might be a memory leak here for docx files.
However, I haven't been able to produce a memory leak my end.

How many docx files are you content indexing? (search for: *.docx )
What is the size of all your docx files? (search for: *.docx -total size is shown in the status bar on the bottom right)
16,800 files, .97 GB total size.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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void wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:07 am Are you running Everything as an administrator?
Is [Administrator] shown in the window title bar?
It's not being run as administrator.

I checked the settings as you instructed, and they were already set to the selections you recommended.

Thanks again
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Trevor22 wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:48 pm
tuska wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:52 pm 2Trevor22
Below is an example of how I handle this issue and to show how quickly the 1 GB limit RAM is reached/exceeded.
Since Everything index seems to use more memory than Windows Search Index,
why do you use both indexes instead of only using Windows Search Index?
Those are my reasons, viz
- as a rule, Everything shows me the search result a little faster with my/these settings
- sometimes I had different search results (Everything | Windows Search) -
  as a rule, however, the results match!
- Thus, a second search query also helps me to check an unexpected or no search result.
- (But I also set exceptions to avoid double indexing).
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Everything 1.5.0.1332a will no longer treat files as text/plain when the iFilter fails to read content.

Please try this version and let us know if the issue persists.


16,800 files, .97 GB total size.
Everything should be using well under 1GB of RAM for content here.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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void wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:43 am Everything 1.5.0.1332a will no longer treat files as text/plain when the iFilter fails to read content.

Please try this version and let us know if the issue persists.
I tried this version, and it still crashes.
16,800 files, .97 GB total size.
Everything should be using well under 1GB of RAM for content here.
It was just slightly under 1 GB (.97 GB)
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Thank you reporting the crash.

We should now look at a mini crash dump / debug logs to work out what file is causing the crash.

I suspect the system iFilter for docx files is causing Everything to crash.

Could you please enable verbose debug logging and re-enable content indexing:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Verbose.
  • From the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Start Debug Logging.
  • From the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Content tab on the left.
  • Re-enable content indexing.
  • Click OK.


When Everything crashes, could you please send a mini crash dump:

Your %TEMP%\Everything Debug Log.txt will also contain information about the file currently being content indexed.
Could you please send this file to support@voidtools.com

Thank you for your help with troubleshooting the issue.


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Reason: Everything.exe => Everything64.exe
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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void wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:40 am ould you please enable verbose debug logging and re-enable content indexing:
i've created the two crash/debut files. I assume these files contain a list of on my PC, which contains some confidential info. Do you have a more secure method that I can use to send this to you and/or know of a way to obscure the confidential information?


Thanks
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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The mini crash dumps should only be a couple MB.
The mini crash dump will contain some memory used by Everything (not a complete snap shot)

There might be a few filenames on the stack stored in the mini crash dump.

The debug logs may contain filenames of recently changes files.

Please consider encrypting the files and pm me the key.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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The crash dump does seem relatively small, but the log file is over 10 mb--too large for email. Is it possible that the crash dump will be sufficient without the log file? If not, do you have have a method for me to send a very large file to you?

Thanks
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Is it possible that the crash dump will be sufficient without the log file?
Yes, the crash dump on its own will be helpful with figuring out the issue.

Don't worry about the debug log if it doesn't compress to under 10MB.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Thanks. Sent by email.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Thank you for the mini crash dump Trevor22,

The crash dump is from Everything 1.4.0.1017 and Everything appears to be running normally.



If you see Everything 1.5 crash again, could you please: (Everything.exe => Everything64.exe)
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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I waited for Everything 1.5 to crash, but when trying to create the crash dump for Everything64.exe, I received the message "error opening process: The handle is invalid" and it wouldn't allow me to create it.
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Re: System Crashing when Content Indexing is enabled

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Thanks for trying Trevor22,

The stack is most likely too corrupt, so Everything just exits.

Debug logs may help find the problem:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Verbose.
  • From the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Start Debug Logging.
  • From the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Content tab on the left.
  • Re-enable content indexing.
  • Click OK.
Wait for Everything to crash.
What are the last few lines in your %TEMP%\Everything Debug Log.txt
Could you please send them to support@voidtools.com
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