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Armagnac
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search in PDF not working

Post by Armagnac » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:05 am

Hello,

I've problems with the search functionality in PDF files. I'm using windows 10 (incl. all updates) and everything version Version 1.4.1.924 (x64).

When I'm looking for a special text string in PDF files it is not found with the CONTENT function. Even when I limit the search to one specific PDF file the string is not found. To check that the pdf is searchable I used adobe or foxit. Both of these programs are able to find the text.
Any ideas what I can try?

Regards,
Armagnac

tuska
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by tuska » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:06 pm

Armagnac wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:05 am
Any ideas what I can try?
Hi,
... so that someone can help you ...

Regards,
Karl

ovg
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by ovg » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:46 pm

Do you have any pdf ifilter installed?

horst.epp
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by horst.epp » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:04 pm

Look what PDF IFilter you have installed.
Can be viewed and changed with the NirSoft tool SearchFilterView.
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/search_filter_view.html

Armagnac
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by Armagnac » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:27 pm

tuska wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:06 pm
Armagnac wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:05 am
Any ideas what I can try?
Hi,
... so that someone can help you ...

Regards,
Karl
Hi Karl,

My example string is "VALUTA".
Update to the current version does not change something.

Armagnac

Armagnac
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by Armagnac » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:28 pm

ovg wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:46 pm
Do you have any pdf ifilter installed?
I've done the standard installation of the program and changed nothing. So I'm not aware of installing any filters.

Armagnac
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by Armagnac » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:32 pm

horst.epp wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:04 pm
Look what PDF IFilter you have installed.
Can be viewed and changed with the NirSoft tool SearchFilterView.
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/search_filter_view.html
I couldn't find any ifilters in SearchFilterView.

Armagnac
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by Armagnac » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:38 pm

But I found out something strange. My example PDF-document has 37 pages. I splittet it to single pages. So my folder contains 38 files, the splittet ones and the original one.
My above mentioned text string "VALUTA" is on every page of the file. So I expected 38 entries in the result list. But I only get one (from the original file). Not an entry from the splitted ones.
The splitted ones are searchable with Adobe or Foxit.

Armagnac

tuska
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by tuska » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:47 pm

I googled "VALUTA" and entered the following text in German language first into a Word document
and then immediately saved it as "VALUTA.pdf":
"Anhand der VALUTA – auch Wertstellung genannt – erkennen Sie, wann Zahlungseingänge und Abbuchungen wertmäßig erfolgen.
Es handelt sich dabei um das Datum, ab dem eine Kontobewegung wirksam wird. Die VALUTA zeigt Ihnen also den echten Kontostand an".
I then opened the file "VALUTA.pdf" in Adobe Acrobat 11.0 Pro - version 11.0.23 and searched for the term "VALUTA".
The search term was found twice.
Furthermore I saved a scanned image as searchable pdf in Adobe and e.g. the search term "Abschnitt" was found in
Adobe Acrobat 11.0 Pro - version 11.0.23.
Additionally I searched and found the above mentioned terms with the file manager "Total Commander" and the plugin "xPDFSearch".

SearchFilterView v1.00 Copyright (c) 2010 Nir Sofer
... brings the following result for this application: Adobe Acrobat 11.0 Pro - version 11.0.23 ... regarding IFILTER:

Code: Select all

File		Description	Product name	File version	Version		Supplier
PDFFilter.dll	PDF Filter	PDF IFilter	11.0.01.36	11.0.01.36	Adobe Systems, Inc.	
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Path
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe PDF iFilter 11 for 64-bit platforms\bin\PDFFilter.dll
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Extension	Typname			Description		Content type
.pdf		AcroExch.Document	Adobe Acrobat Document	application/pdf
In 'Everything' entering e.g.
"D:\zzz\" ext:pdf content:Valuta
... OR ...
"D:\zzz\" ext:pdf content:VALUTA

finds the file "VALUTA.pdf"(!) and with "View" - "Preview" the content of the file can be viewed.

For the sake of order, however, I must mention that I had a few failed attempts before,
which were inexplicable to me. Only for this reason I also did a content search with "Total Commander".
Last edited by NotNull on Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: code tags for clarity

tuska
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by tuska » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:36 pm

Armagnac wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:05 am
I'm using windows 10 (incl. all updates)...
To check that the pdf is searchable I used adobe...
Armagnac wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:32 pm
I couldn't find any ifilters in SearchFilterView.
I think an installation of iFilter is required to find texts in pdf documents via content searching in 'Everything'.

I googled an interesting article on this topic [with download link]: Adobe iFilter for 64-bit systems
German language
Google translator (German -> English)
Pay attention to the notes, for example on "iFilter from Adobe in the 32-bit version"!

I wish you success!
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Windows 10 Pro (x64) Version 20H2 (OS build 19042.685)
'Everything'-Version 1.4.1.1003 (x64) - Public release

Armagnac
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Re: search in PDF not working

Post by Armagnac » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:00 am

Good morning,

Problem solved. Thank you ALL for your help. Finally the missing ifilter solved the problem.

Before I installed the ifilter (thank you tuska) I tried the search with TotalCommander. Here all entries were correctly found (without ifilter).
Then I installed the ifilter and get now correct results in everything.

Nevertheless I think it's strange that in my test case I found one entry for the original file but no entries for the splitted ones. But now it'S ok.

I'm happy now that my favorite program works fine again.

Best regards and stay healthy,
Armagnac

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