Latest on Tag searching?

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reelismism
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Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:40 am

I admit I could have read more, but all the info was making my head spin!

Was wondering if you could give some quick suggestions/links re: my use case:

I want to quickly search a large collection (>5tb) of personal footage videos that I want to tag and categorise.
I'd ideally like this data to be searchable by Everything (E), and ideally in metadata (understand this could slow down results, but looking for 2nd fastest option).

Planning to use a 3rd party tool to edit the Metadata of these files in Windows.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by void » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:46 am

I currently have the next version of Everything displaying some meta data.
However, there is a lot more work to do, such as indexing this information and supporting meta data for file formats that Windows does not support.

Hopefully tagging support will be available in the next version of Everything.

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:22 am

Wondering if progress was made on the metadata stuff?

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by void » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:20 am

I am making progress on searching, sorting and indexing meta data.

I'm having to implement my own readers for most common file formats, as Windows doesn't support this natively.
If Everything can not read meta data, it will fall back to using Windows properties..

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:02 pm

Could you pls ELI5 in practical use (i.e. searching for tags on files) ;) ?
Also, how are the tags managed on files?

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by NotNull » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:05 pm

I think you will have to wait - just like the rest of us - until it's released.

(If I'm building/writing something after designing it, it often ends up 'completely' different due to practical limitations *)

* In my case: my limited skill set ;)

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:13 am

Fair enough, thanks for your efforts :thumbsup:

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by NotNull » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:29 pm

reelismism wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:13 am
Fair enough, thanks for your efforts :thumbsup:
Never knew there was a ":thumbsup:" possibility on this forum. Thanks!! Or from now on: :thumbsup: :D

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by itchy » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:09 am

Hi. I would love to search tags and other metadata as well.

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:45 am

Just jumping in to say:

ME TOO!

:shock:

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by void » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:44 am

Searching, indexing and sorting by "tags" will be available in the next major release of Everything.

I still need to look into modifying tags from within Everything.
Everything will use the same tagging system as Windows. You will be able to override the windows tags with your own custom tags.

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by raccoon » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:49 pm

I am unfamiliar with Windows tagging. How does it work. Is it NTFS reliant?

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by void » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:29 am

It's up to the implementation.
Windows tags do not necessarily use NTFS/alternate streams. Usually tags are stored with the files data.
Not all files can have Windows tags.

For most files, tags are stored with the files data (eg: jpg/mp4/docx).

Folder tags can be set with a custom Desktop.ini

Custom "Everything tags" will be stored in external csv files.

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:38 am

I've just started playing with Kyno https://lesspain.software/kyno , it looks like it could be the solution I've been waiting for (organising a large video production content library), it produces metadata as you add it, to the folder containing the video files.

Thought I'd just enquire if:
- There's some way of parsing this metadata, as related to the files in question, i.e. search for #outdoor show those files in Everything?
OR
- If their method might provide insight for the method used by everything.

Any progress?

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by void » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:53 am

- There's some way of parsing this metadata, as related to the files in question, i.e. search for #outdoor show those files in Everything?
Thanks for the Kyno suggestion.
I will look into this.
My guess is they have their own database for metadata.
Any progress?
Still needs a lot of work.

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Re: Latest on Tag searching?

Post by reelismism » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:41 am

Should have added prior, this is why I thought a good use-case, or possibly used in parralel with Everything:
The most valuable data - everything you add, like ratings, tags, text metadata (title, description, scene, shot etc.), markers, subclips - is stored in XML files in hidden directories located in the same directory as the media file they belong to. This makes it easy to share and move around folders while keeping all the metadata you added in Kyno intact.
https://support.lesspain.software/suppo ... -its-data-

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