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Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:05 pm
by Debugger
The folder cannot be opened if it is huge. I click open open no reaction.
How can I solve this problem? The problem only occurs with the largest folder with 14k files inside.~
~ 71GB !!! size
The problem also occurs in applications/tool based on "MFT" (Master Seeker or UltraSearch) or Java Explorer.
In Windows Explorer and Total Commander this problem does not occur

Vers. 1.4.1.969 (x64)
Windows 7 64-b

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:12 pm
by tuska
Debugger wrote:How can I solve this problem?
With these settings you can double click on the folder in 'Everything' and
it will then be opened automatically in Total Commander in the active window.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:11 pm
by Debugger
However, I prefer the standard Win Explorer...
And TC was just an example ...
I'm most interested in why Everything has restrictions on opening such large folders ...

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:57 pm
by horst.epp
Debugger wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:11 pm
However, I prefer the standard Win Explorer...
And TC was just an example ...
I'm most interested in why Everything has restrictions on opening such large folders ...
What do you mean with Open a folder in Everything ?
Everything doesn't open any folder by itself, it just shows a list of files and folders.
Any Open happens with Windows Explorer by default or any other configured file manager.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:21 pm
by tuska
2Debugger
What are your settings in 'Everything' under:

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Menu "Tools" - "Options..." - "General: Context Menu" - "Open (Folders)" --> Command:
when trying to open large folders?

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:28 pm
by Debugger
$exec("%1")

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:56 am
by tuska
Debugger wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:28 pm
$exec("%1")
Well, this is the default setting ... for opening folders in Windows Explorer.
So a double click on a folder in 'Everything' should open that folder in Windows Explorer.

If that doesn't happen, you can try to open the folder in Total Commander, with this setting in Everything:

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$exec("Path\To\TOTALCMD64.EXE" /O /A /S "%1")
You have to change the path to the file TOTALCMD64.EXE.

If that does not work either, then we need an expert...

PS:
I have no problem with a folder with 175 GB after double clicking on the folder in 'Everything'
to open it immediately in Windows Explorer or Total Commander.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:29 am
by Debugger
Try to understand. Actually, it's not about the size of the folder, but what's in one folder.
Please do not confuse with subfolders in the folder.
Put 20,000 files, e.g. mp3 in only one folder larger than 70 GB.
And try to open it.
Oh then you will be surprised.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:52 am
by tuska
Sorry, I cannot create such a test scenario due to a lack of sufficient files.

I understand your information as follows:
1. You can open the 71 GB folder directly in Windows Explorer and Total Commander
2. You double click on this folder in 'Everything' and it will NOT open in Windows Explorer [and in Total Commander?]
Is this correct?

For testing purposes please use the latest 'Everything' Beta Nightly Build Version 1.4.1.984 (x64)
and report whether the problem persists.

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Windows 10 Pro (x64) Version 2004 (OS build 19041.329)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.4OGHz, 16 GB RAM
TC 9.51 x64/x86 | 'Everything'-Version 1.4.1.984 (x64)

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:25 pm
by Debugger
Version 1.4.1.984 (x64)

This folder cannot be opened ...
I click "Open" and nothing happens, no reaction whatsoever!

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2020-07-09 16:32:01.295: selection: 1/1: E:\test
2020-07-09 16:32:01.299: exec: first expr
2020-07-09 16:32:01.301: exec: command $exec("%1")
2020-07-09 16:32:01.303: exec: fullfilename E:\test
2020-07-09 16:32:01.305: exec: depth 0 
2020-07-09 16:32:01.307: exec: exec "%1")
2020-07-09 16:32:01.308: exec: depth 1 
2020-07-09 16:32:01.310: exec: got "E:\test"
2020-07-09 16:32:01.312: exec: shellexecute (idlist) file:E:\test param:
2020-07-09 16:32:01.317: WM_ACTIVATE 0000000000000000 00000000009b0f4e, lastfocus 00000000001817d0, current focus 00000000001817d0
2020-07-09 16:32:01.319: Enter ShellExecuteExW
2020-07-09 16:32:01.321: E:
2020-07-09 16:32:01.327: Leave ShellExecuteExW
2020-07-09 16:32:01.330: WM_ACTIVATE 0000000000000001 00000000009b0f4e, lastfocus 00000000001817d0, current focus 00000000009b0f4e
2020-07-09 16:32:01.332: sub buf killed
2020-07-09 16:32:01.335: set 1 run history in 0.000024 seconds
2020-07-09 16:32:01.336: exec: main thread regained focus
2020-07-09 16:32:01.338: new results 69
2020-07-09 16:32:02.229: WM_ACTIVATE 0000000000000000 0000000000000000, lastfocus 00000000001817d0, current focus 00000000001817d0

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selection: 1/1: E:\test
exec: first expr
exec: command $exec("%1")
exec: fullfilename E:\test
exec: depth 0
exec: exec "%1")
exec: depth 1
exec: got "E:\test"
exec: shellexecute (idlist) file:E:\test param:
WM_ACTIVATE 0000000000000000 0000000000481de6, lastfocus 00000000001f1a72, current focus 0
0000000001f1a72
Enter ShellExecuteExW
E:
Leave ShellExecuteExW
WM_ACTIVATE 0000000000000001 0000000000481de6, lastfocus 00000000001f1a72, current focus 0
000000000481de6
sub buf killed
set 1 run history in 0.000030 seconds
exec: main thread regained focus
MSG: 0000000000000000 c03e 0000000000000012 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000000000 c03e 0000000000000012 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000000000 c03e 0000000000000012 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000000000 c03e 0000000000000012 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000000000 c03e 0000000000000012 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000530e4c 1401 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
EVENT: 000000013f713d80 00000000004d8c80
new results 69
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000001 0000000001de000e
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 000f 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000141568 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0202 0000000000000001 0000000001de000e
MSG: 0000000000141568 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000141568 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0201 0000000000000000 0000000001de000e
MSG: 0000000000000000 c03e 0000000000000012 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000001de000e
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 000f 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000141568 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000003c1d18 0113 0000000000000001 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000141568 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000001df000e
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000001e0000e
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000001e1000e
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000001e40011
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000001f00026
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 000000000208006a
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000022400dc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000023d0171
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000025e0213
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000028402d4
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000002ae038d
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000002d70438
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000002fa04b4
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000031e0501
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003310519
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 000000000339051c
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000033c051c
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 000000000343051c
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 000000000345051a
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000034b0516
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 000000000354050f
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000035a0509
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003600503
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003660500
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000036904ff
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000036e04ff
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037204ff
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037404ff
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037604fe
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037704fe
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037804fe
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037a04fd
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037c04fd
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000038004fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000038304fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000038704fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000038904fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000038c04fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000039004fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000039504fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000039804fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000039c04fc
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000039f04fd
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003a60502
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003ac0506
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 000000000000050c
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 000000000000050c
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 000000000004050f
MSG: 0000000000141568 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 00000000000b0513
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 00000000000d0515
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 0000000000110518
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 0000000000140519
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 000000000016051a
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
WM_ACTIVATE 0000000000000000 0000000000000000, lastfocus 00000000001f1a72, current focus 0
0000000001f1a72
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 000f 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000dd1f0c 0113 0000000000000006 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 0000000000172192 0200 0000000000000000 00000000000a04ed
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003b204d5
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000003a304bb
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000038f0498
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000037b0471
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000035e0441
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000033a0404
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 00000000030f03b6
MSG: 00000000003c1d18 0113 0000000000000001 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000002e10363
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0200 0000000000000000 0000000002aa0302
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 02a3 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000
MSG: 00000000001f1a72 0113 000000000000002d 0000000000000000

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:25 pm
by tuska
I cannot help you with this problem, but it would be very interesting,
whether a double click on the folder will open it in Total Commander Version 9.51.

Could you please still try this in version 1.4.1.984 (x64) with this parameter:

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$exec("Path\To\TOTALCMD64.EXE" /O /A /S "%1")
Thank you!

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:49 pm
by Debugger
$exec("C:\totalcmd\TOTALCMD64.EXE" /O /A /S "%1")

Work

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:47 am
by tuska
Debugger wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:49 pm
$exec("C:\totalcmd\TOTALCMD64.EXE" /O /A /S "%1")

Work
I am glad to hear that with Total Commander it works.
Thanks again!

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:27 am
by Debugger
tuska - This error/bug is caused by the folder name

If the FOLDER Name contains a name

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E:\poky
or

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E:\POKY
unable to open folder in Explorer



For tests I changed the name to

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E:\1
and it opens here correctly
this confirms that the name causes this opening problem



Of course, this only applies when there are many elements (9800) with this specific folder name "POKY" OR "ROKY" etc.!!!

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:03 am
by Debugger
No response from developers?
Why the file name causes problems with opening, I say it once and it is not Unicode, only the English foldername. [A-Z]
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pl/dic ... glish/poky

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:21 pm
by NotNull
EDIT: POXY should be POKY. Too much work to replace it all ...

I tried to reproduce the issue, so I:
- created 10.000 folders (POXY_1_POXY ... POXY_10000_POXY) and filled POXY_5000_POXY with 15.000 files. [1]
- Started Everything
- Searched for POXY_5000
- Double-clicked the folder POXY_5000_POXY

Result:
File Explorer opened normally, albeit a little slower than usual.


I guess there are more factors in play here, other than the POXY foldername or the amount of folders/files. Maybe a virus-/malware scanner?

There is a difference between Explorer the filemanager and Explorer the shell/desktop.
Opening a folder from Everything has more similarities with opening it through Explorer the shell.
What happens if you open the Run-box (Win + R), type your POXY foldername and press ENTER? Does it open the folder in Explorer (the file manager)?


You can also try to open File Explorer in different way:
Enter the following Open (Folder) command: $exec(c:\windows\explorer.exe "%1")


And another question:
Are you running Everything as administrator or as a restricted user + Everything Service (see Menu:Tools > Options > General)



[1] Created using these 2 CMD commands:

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for /l %x in (1,1,10000) do @md manyfiles\POXY_%x_POXY
for /l %x in (1,1,15000) do @echo.> manyfiles\POXY_5000_POXY\file_%x.txt

( TEsted with Everything 1.4.1.976 x64 @ Win10 1909 )

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:59 am
by Debugger
NotNull
General
[x] Run as administrator
[ ] Everything Service

You can also try to open File Explorer in different way:
Enter the following Open (Folder) command: $exec(c:\windows\explorer.exe "%1")

With this command it opens correctly :)

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:39 pm
by NotNull
Debugger wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:59 am
With this command it opens correctly :)
Good.

What about this?
What happens if you open the Run-box (Win + R), type your POXY foldername and press ENTER? Does it open the folder in Explorer (the file manager)?
If that didn't open it is an issue outside Everything.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:09 pm
by Debugger
Win+R
Here it opens without a problem...

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:08 pm
by Debugger
I would like to solve the same problem in MasterSeeker, except that there is no option to type this command.
Unfortunately, the author does not respond to my messages.
Can anyone help?

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:12 pm
by NotNull
Debugger wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:09 pm
Win+R
Here it opens without a problem...
Then it is still unsure if it is Everything related or not. Probably not, as you have the same issue in other programs.
(but at least you now have a workaround..)

Debugger wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:08 pm
I would like to solve the same problem in MasterSeeker, except that there is no option to type this command.
Unfortunately, the author does not respond to my messages.
Can anyone help?
Can't help you.
I am not surprised the author doesn't respond as it looks like MasterSeeker is abandoned (most recent version is from 2014).

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:06 am
by Debugger
My computer went into "Button Windows Start -> Close -> Sleep" mode all the time to start the computer faster.
I just made a clean start of the computer (Normal start) and I see that this error was immediately resolved in the applications.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:13 am
by Debugger
And now I remember that a Exlporer shell failure occurred two or three times when I opened the Everything folder on the system
E:\Downloads\Everything.exe

This behavior is caused when the explorer shell temporarily crashes. Of course, on all computers, sometimes the shell can behave this way. Because every system is not completely free of temporary errors and such exceptions occur in the system.

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:56 pm
by therube
Am I understanding correctly, that after a computer reboot, all is now working correctly?

Re: Big Folder - Unable Open Windows Explorer - DEBUG LOG

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:51 pm
by Debugger
Could not open folder in Everything has caused an access violation exception (0xC0000005) when trying to execute instructions from a non-executable address at memory location 0x0ff40fd8 on thread 2

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All functions in this operation      (includes system functions, excludes boiler-plate functions)
 
0x0ff40fd8 
kernel32!WerpReportFaultInternal 
kernel32!WerpReportFault 
kernel32!BasepReportFault 
kernel32!UnhandledExceptionFilter 
ntdll! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string' 
ntdll!_C_specific_handler 
ntdll!RtlpExecuteHandlerForException 
ntdll!RtlDispatchException 
ntdll!KiUserExceptionDispatcher 
EXPLORERFRAME!CExplorerFrame::FrameMessagePump 
EXPLORERFRAME!BrowserThreadProc 
EXPLORERFRAME!BrowserNewThreadProc 
EXPLORERFRAME!CExplorerTask::InternalResumeRT 
EXPLORERFRAME!CRunnableTask::Run 
shell32!CShellTask::TT_Run 
shell32!CShellTaskThread::ThreadProc 
shell32!CShellTaskThread::s_ThreadProc 
shlwapi!WrapperThreadProc 
kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk 
ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart