Eventual instability under Win XP

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Arbie
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Eventual instability under Win XP

Post by Arbie » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:48 pm

I'm running Everything 1.3.0.632b; however, the problem has existed for a year or more. I was just hoping it might incidentally have been fixed with the new versions. This is on a WinXP 32-bit system with Intel CPU and 4GB RAM; all service packs.

The symptom is that after a few hours of having Everything running, Windows Explorer becomes unstable. The first symptom is that file associations are lost. The Explorer can't open new windows etc. If I don't reboot Windows around then it will eventually lock up totally.

This only happens if I have Everything running. I suspect a memory leak or other gradually-growing problem. I have checked other posts here and find nothing directly applicable though I did see the advice about looking for symptoms in Task Manager. My case also does involve big drives (4 - 8 TB) and 500-700K files.

Everything is so great and so essential to this use that I can live with the issue, but it would be nice to have it fixed. So I thought I'd mention that there is something wrong.

Thanks,

Arbie

vsub
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Re: Eventual instability under Win XP

Post by vsub » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:05 pm

No problems here...I'm using the program from 2 or 3 years and it's working non stop while the pc is on.
Maybe the problem it's because you have so many files.

I have 81276 files and 8316 folders

therube
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Re: Eventual instability under Win XP

Post by therube » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:55 pm

XP, < 1 TB (between two HDDs), 700K files & no issues.

Typically always have Everything open.
Typically do not use Windows Explorer, though if I have, I've never noted any issues.


Only guessing ...

Options | General - Show shell context menus, disable?


Are you opening Windows Explorer from within Everything, outside of it, or you have the same issue regardless?

Or maybe you're running into a shell context menu conflict?
Try ShellExView & note the part, "Right-click is slow or weird behavior caused by context menu handlers".

void
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Re: Eventual instability under Win XP

Post by void » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:16 pm

Are there any errors reported in your Errorlog.txt file?
How much memory and Handles is Everything using on start-up?
How much memory and Handles is Everything using after a couple hours of usage?

Arbie
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Re: Eventual instability under Win XP

Post by Arbie » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:12 pm

Thanks for your attention. The problem is not related to the shell interface since I never use that.

In my post dated today (3 Mar 2013) about Everything crashing on folder rename, I attached a screenshot of the file handles etc on startup. I had (but lost) a similar picture after several hours of use... however; I looked at it and there wasn't much difference. Nothing was going crazy.

Below is an excerpt from the Errorlog during a period when this was happening:

I don't have the same instability problem on another Win XP 32-bit machine with only 2GB of RAM, though that is with "only" 4TB being indexed and ~300K files. So I suspect it has to do with the huge amount of data that Everything is dealing with here where it does happen.

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Everything Errorlog

2/23/2013 12:30 PM: Everything 1.3.0.632b: .\src\os.c(5816): os_get_usn_journal(): DeviceIoControl(00000218,FSCTL_QUERY_USN_JOURNAL,0,0,013b0000,56,00e9ef24,0): 1: Failed to query USN Journal.
2/24/2013 7:47 AM: Everything 1.3.0.632b: .\src\os.c(3226): os_open_volume(): CreateFileW(): GetLastError(): 2: Failed to open volume \\?\Volume{632662b3-7e17-11e2-88e0-001fc6733469}
2/24/2013 7:47 AM: Everything 1.3.0.632b: .\src\os.c(3226): os_open_volume(): CreateFileW(): GetLastError(): 2: Failed to open volume \\?\Volume{632662b3-7e17-11e2-88e0-001fc6733469}
2/27/2013 2:07 PM: Everything 1.3.1.636b: .\src\os.c(5729): os_get_usn_journal(): DeviceIoControl(0000021c,FSCTL_QUERY_USN_JOURNAL,0,0,015af068,56,015aef0c,0): 1: Failed to query USN Journal.
2/28/2013 1:03 PM: Everything 1.3.1.636b: .\src\os.c(5729): os_get_usn_journal(): DeviceIoControl(00000224,FSCTL_QUERY_USN_JOURNAL,0,0,015af068,56,015aef0c,0): 1: Failed to query USN Journal.
2/28/2013 1:03 PM: Everything 1.3.1.636b: .\src\os.c(5729): os_get_usn_journal(): DeviceIoControl(00000208,FSCTL_QUERY_USN_JOURNAL,0,0,015af068,56,015aef0c,0): 1: Failed to query USN Journal.
3/2/2013 4:57 AM: Everything 1.3.1.636b: .\src\os.c(5729): os_get_usn_journal(): DeviceIoControl(0000021c,FSCTL_QUERY_USN_JOURNAL,0,0,015af068,56,015aef0c,0): 1: Failed to query USN Journal.

Arbie
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Re: Eventual instability under Win XP - FIXED

Post by Arbie » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:06 pm

FYI, it looks like v1.3.1.636b has fixed this instability issue. THANK YOU!

Now, I eagerly await the next release with the fix for crashes when folders are renamed...
http://forum.voidtools.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1716

Searching in order to rename things is the only reason I have to drop back to the old version.

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