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L04D1NG
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Odd Issue with a mass deployment

Post by L04D1NG » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:17 pm

Summary of issue
Sorry for the wall of text here I have a real issue with being brief

First I want to start by saying your software is amazing and I'm grateful that software like this exists. That said I decided to deploy Everything for around 6 users in an engineering department to help them more quickly find files on their rather large file server. After a few weeks of my initial 6 users using the software I got extremely positive feedback and a request that we deploy this software for all workstations. I did this using the MSI package and pushing an everything.ini settings file to all users via a login script. Things seemed to be fine for 3 or 4 weeks and then we started to get reports of slow network shares, file and folders loading in slowing when browsing shares and files not saving consistently.

At first these issue were random, hard to replicate and didn't happen all the time so we thought based on all the symptoms this was an issue with the network. We did all the testing we could, ran Wireshark on workstations to watch network (mostly SMB) traffic and came up empty. We kept trying to replicate the issues all throughout this time with limited success. 1 or 2 Weeks went by and the issues seemed to be getting worse over time to the point that we could replicate the issues very easily.

We still thought this was a network issue however and kept looking at it as such until we got to the point where effectively no one could save any data to network shares, you would go to save a file the file would be on the share for 1-3 seconds and then it would just disappear. We spent a full day and night working on the assumption that the VHD for the file server data was the issue or the file servers' OS had some issues (Windows Server 2019) so we deployed a new file server, got all new VHD's and moved all the network shares to the new VHD. I had a lot of time to test at this time so I wrote some quick and dirty powershell to put random data on network drives in random folders, verify the data was there and then delete the data. I let this run for a few hours and the issue never once happened. I thought I had it solved but once staff came in the next morning the issue started up again.

We knew it was not a network issue at this point for sure as we we're able to reproduce the issue directly on the file server saving to a network drive. We also knew it was caused by some kind of user device or program from running procmon and seeing a number of user accounts access files we created them as soon as we made them. We we're also able to confirm the same via file and folder access. I was still not sure of the cause however but the scope was narrowing. Over time I tired to remove all other server form the network to make sure no server was trying to run something on the file shares, removed domain users access to the network shares and still had the same issue. I was not able to get this issue to happen on network shares that were not on this file servers' disk though I also was able to stop the issue by disconnecting the file server form the network.


What we know now

Not a network issue
Not a user issue
Not caused by any other servers
Not caused by our AV or backup software
Nearly every user was access all new files created as soon as they were on the network drive

At this point I connected to one of the workstations connecting to the drive, ran procmon on that device and created a file on the network share from the file server. The results of this were showing that Everything was accessing the file we created, opening the file and indexing it. This also means that ALL the workstations with Everything installed on it (nearly all of them ~70) were also doing this all at once. So I pushed some script to remove Everything from all the workstations and the issue is now gone.

First I'm really hopping we can reinstall Everything for users because I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of pushback for having removed it, staff really like it and more or less need it to work now. What I can offer to try help debugging is my everything.ini I had being pushed to clients.

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; Please make sure Everything is not running before modifying this file.
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NotNull
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Re: Odd Issue with a mass deployment

Post by NotNull » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:04 pm

See this thread for an explanation.

Consider using an ETP Server instead.

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